Camille went from broken OP to garbage tier. Is this the fate of the 2 new PBE champions?

MLDzXnRRR·4/10/2017, 11:23:21 AM·17 votes·3,213 views

What was the point of releasing new champions, if they become unplayable in 2-3 months and every game is again Yasuo+Lee+Thresh+friends? Also the mobility creep is laughably stupid - I don't even know what is going on judging from the PBE youtube footages.

18 Comments

Otherworldz4/10/2017, 11:58:29 AM17 votes

Camille is doing just fine

You are just bad and salty because you can't spam buttons and go 25-4 anymore.

Requiemsfire4/10/2017, 1:19:38 PM7 votes

Because Camille should totally go even or win every match up while outscaling and outperforming each toplaner.

Lowering her ult by 1 second, won't kill her, and removing sustain from minions is more than fair since camille should actually be encouraged to use her W in skirmishes rather than simply free healing off the minion wave.

AmazoX4/10/2017, 1:11:25 PM6 votes

Blah blah blah. Calm down your exaggeration, You want her stupidly OP again? She's fine right now, The exaggeration and the way this thread got up votes is just stupid, Come on guys, Why do we keep making stuff sound so bad when it isn't? This is the league community, Let's just make it a better place.

LordBrasca4/10/2017, 12:10:42 PM4 votes

Honestly it was obvious since she was in PBE that she would have been perma bann.

Her E alone is more than enough to define a champion overloaded, then if you try to read the other spells... oh boi.

They are slowly fixing her by removing parts of her kit which is fine since the problem is exactly the fact that she does too many things in general and too well... but she will be probably end up a balancing nightmare like ekko.

Meritas4/10/2017, 12:38:44 PM3 votes

It's the fate of an overloaded champion.

Juvens4/10/2017, 1:18:52 PM3 votes

I don't understand why people we're doing so much bitching about her kit in a game where champions like Yasuo, Lee Sin, and Darius exist. She's been gutted to such an extent that she struggles in lane against practically every other top lane juggernaut or tank without being able to outscale them.

Shaydrox4/10/2017, 11:37:21 AM3 votes

I think Camille as a design was a mistake. Her potential of catching people out is so utterly insane that it makes no sense. Don't even get me started on how well she can actually escape with her E. They did kinda gut her but with how powerful she potentially was I'm not so surprised, I'm just wondering if they'll keep overloading kits to the point where they have to completely strip parts off before the champion becomes balanceable.

ProfDrDeath4/10/2017, 4:03:40 PM2 votes

No. From the looks of things, neither of these has anything as strong as Camille's E and ultimate.

In fact, I thought to myself: "That champion will eat 10 patches of nerfs after her release, if only for pro play" when she was put on PBE. Its point&click nature combined with the high-ranged gapcloser simply makes it as close to a guarantee for a successful gank by the jungler as it gets.

yesnobanana4/10/2017, 12:30:19 PM2 votes

PLEASE FOR THE LOVE OF GOD LET HER STAY WERE SHE IS [zombie-brand-mindblown]

Ahristocats4/10/2017, 12:00:04 PM1 votes

It's kind of ironic that you put thresh here, when lulu before becoming perma-banned had a higher pick rate than him

-gH

no to toxic4/10/2017, 11:47:05 AM1 votes

Most champions get gutted after release but mostly due to their kits being overloaded and their numbers being higher then Maokais base stats. I mean look at Camille she gets free stats just for pressing buttons on every single one of her abilitys, had a good early game mid game and a late game wich was more disgusting then Fioras due to Camille being able to e onto you from an entire screen away. Azir and Kalista were also the same. They both had 5 more things then every other champion while also having better early mid and late game then most other champs. I could mention more like Taliyah being able to clear and entire wave with 1 q and then one shotting you with w e. So you just need to accept that Riot power creeps this game in a way wich forces those new champs to be weak. Unless they are fan faverouites.

ChaddyFantome4/10/2017, 3:10:26 PM1 votes

This is what happens to all overloaded champs not named Yasuo past season 4

Warlord Scrap4/10/2017, 11:38:33 AM1 votes

I preface this with this is not a screw riot, dotas better post. The problem exists because they sell the champs for money. If garen was released today exactly as he is right now would you buy him. Maybe the collectors who need every champ will. Maybe the people who really are into his personality and character will but most people wouldnt why because hes weak and easily countered. Now lets look at camille extremely mobile, extremely powerful good for sales because everyone needs the new op champ. After a few months they gut her because there was never a way to make her balanced in the first place she simply had too much. Galio gets reworked and they are selling a bundle overtune his numbers a bit to boost sales then once the cow is milked drop him down to a balanced state. As more champs release it gets harder and harder to make truly new kits as more abilities get taken up. mobility is truly the easiest way to make it feel new because it has the steepest mastery curve to perfecting it. If they modeled there business model soley on skins i could almost promise that the balance would be in a better spot especially with ten cent in charge.