This is garbage, smurfs have killed new players.

Zulgaines·10/25/2014, 3:16:47 AM·109 votes·17,469 views

I lost all 4 of my referrals to smurfs, every fucking one of them quit and I'm sick of it.

You can't even keep your servers stable and you break champions with every patch, I don't know why anyone plays this game anymore.

166 Comments

Xonra10/25/2014, 3:26:34 AM52 votes

Both of my roomies and 2 of my friends that live in the area quit as well because of stuff like this recently and I've had at least 3 others quit as well before even getting to 20.

My roomies were new to Moba games and trying to learn but you can't learn with others of the same skill leve when there is no one at the same skill level anymore (for the most part).

When I started playing in early 2011 there were mostly newer people and I can't remember running into too many smurfs but I've watched both roomies play and people just out right say they are smurfing, yelling at new players for not following a Meta that the tutorial doesn't explain and they have no way of knowing about (without being told or looking outside of the game).

It is a VERY unfriendly environment for new players as the tutorial is garbage and the smurfs act like they are in ranked playing on a level 3 account calling new players all sorts of names for not understanding a game they have never played.

Drogmyre10/25/2014, 3:24:00 AM44 votes

Smurfs didn't kill new players.

The god-awful leveling system making smurfing last for-fucking-ever is what killed new players.

TenSlashTen10/25/2014, 4:17:36 AM24 votes

LoL has fallen hard. I can't wait to watch them really scramble to keep us around. It will amuse me.

I love the gameplay. But my god is the elo boosting or inflation/balance/servers/client/really anything thats not gameplay... Just god awful.

Its a joke how bad it's gotten in under 3 years.

All because of their stupid Esports obession. I wish this game never got popular. I was fine with a playerbase of under 800k.

But No, Just had to shove that Esports. Disgusting.

oh and its 2014 and you still have to play 200+ games to hit level 30 without constant exp boosts.

GreyXpelliarmus10/25/2014, 3:49:46 AM15 votes

Riot Lore Team have killed my soul. That I can tell you

Junkο10/25/2014, 10:41:51 AM13 votes

The main problem with smurfing is that a lot of pros have more than 5 smurf accounts, so Riot can't go against smurfs without killing of their dear pro players and esports, which is the only thing the game is about now pretty much.

WildTurtle i think had 5 smurfs in challenger in Season 3, how was that allowed i don't have an idea.

Heol10/26/2014, 12:11:45 AM13 votes

I lost all 4 of my referrals to smurfs, every XXXXX one of them quit and I'm sick of it.

You can't even keep your servers stable and you break champions with every patch, I don't know why anyone plays this game anymore.

I run a learning community for players of all skill levels (I do free coaching), and lots of people who were in your friends shoes have found a wonderful home. I don't want to advertise anything here, but, if you'd like to contact me in game and send a friend request, I'd be more than happy to talk to you about it. Let me re-iterate its free and I do it on my own free time (it's a live broadcast, and community... or family some would say.)

Hope to hear from you, and, tell your friends if they give League another shot, I'll buy all of them the free champion pack to get them started off on the right foot.

I, do not, tolerate, smurfs who pubstomp, new, players. And, I do everything in my power to make the game more enjoyable for those in that situation.

Drunk Rummate10/25/2014, 4:48:40 AM9 votes

I had a pretty good experience as a new player and I just started playing last January.

If you aren't a competitive PC gamer you won't enjoy LoL. Sounds like your friends aren't competitive enough for this game. Truly competitive players will look up the best ways to play so that they aren't playing blind, they will ask for help from their friends and try to improve until they're playing at an acceptable level. Playing at a bronze level is not hard. They simply didn't want to put in the effort. Your referrals were empty attempts to appease you so they could say "I tried it and didn't like it."

I'm sorry you have friends that are afraid to tell you the truth. When my friend asked me to play archaege I told him "I dislike MMOs and don't want to try it." I didn't waste my time and his on a game I knew I wouldn't enjoy.

BetterDravenBot10/25/2014, 4:43:28 AM6 votes

They should issue an IP check at the start of creating a new account if you don't opt-in to download the game, and if you can find loop holes in that, just issue a mandatory IP check anyways with the creation of an account.

Hawkhell10/25/2014, 5:59:05 AM5 votes

All good points. Riot can't fix the server so I have been leveling accounts 1-10 for fun. I lost promos at silver 1 because of the server going down and then got 2 games back to back with ppl dcing a couple days later and I was back at the bottom of silver 1. Who The game is just crap, they bought an awesome game and took all the competitiveness out of it by making it the most unstable game on the market today. After I got screwed over that much in ranked I let my 8 year old son play my account and I ended up in bronze 3. But who cares, no real difference in player skill through the ranks anyways.

Zulgaines10/25/2014, 7:35:18 PM4 votes

To the people hating on me for lack of explanation, do you seriously think I expected a 5 page post with 40+ likes from two sentences?

If anything it goes to show how much of a damn problem this is that so many people latched on with very little in the original post.

Trash World10/26/2014, 3:57:26 AM4 votes

So I'm a new player (started back in June), and I guess I'll give my perspective. Everyone says that smurfing is what is ruining the game, and a few have said the leveling. Without a doubt, playing to level 30 (and past 30 without runes) was the worst part about this game. I played mostly bot games to level 20, then ARAM to 30 because everyone said I would get destroyed by matchmaking - not true. Either that, or I learned my mechanics well enough to survive. That is just my experience. I can't speak for everyone else. At level 30 now, the game is insanely fun. I love this game to death. But if I were to lose my account somehow, I'd quit. Leveling to 30 was that bad. It took forever and it was unpleasant 99% of the time.

Rainlein10/25/2014, 5:54:31 AM3 votes

Smurf isn't everything though. I got matched to a plat 3 player and I was unranked with 15 normal wins. Idk how that works :D

Alivath10/26/2014, 6:34:14 PM3 votes

I haven't been playing this game very long but i don't really have a problem with smurfs that much...my only problem as a new player is getting matched against level 30s with full masteries and runes and getting destroyed in my lane cause i cant keep up at level 17, i would stop playing cause its really annoying but my roommate tells me to just push on and get to 30..so i am gonna try lol, but seriously they need to fix the match making cause this is plain junk until 30

BeatzBoyFTW10/26/2014, 4:03:10 PM3 votes

Rackier: "don't talk back on diamond players you bronzie! If you want to become a Diamond, you got to think like a Diamond"

Then his high elo species creates smurfs and then craps up the low elos game just to f*ck whatever Rackier just said.

Marinaras Trench11/19/2014, 11:00:13 PM2 votes

As a new level 30 I can tell all of you who are complaining that this isn't that much of a problem. I laddered my way up to level 30 in about 3-4 months, and in that time I ran into very few smurfs. I don't see why this is a problem for a lot of you guys and if, lets say every 15-20 games you run into one, even if they are a diamond surf with teamwork you can still win. Just group and focus the other n00bies :) Get fed off of them and then cc the carry until they die. I agree this is a problem riot should fix, but it isn't as big of some of you are making it out to be. As someone who plays with level 10 friends a lot (on a smurf to make matchmaking fair, don't worry I play poorly on purpose lol) I can attest to the fact that there aren't that many smurfs out there, and the ones that do are usually very friendly!

GoldenLeSpoink10/25/2014, 5:31:37 AM2 votes

You have to remember however, that SMURFING is available in every game, you typically see it in MOBAS or FPS.

balbraaksel10/25/2014, 11:48:39 AM2 votes

One simple fix is to have an option when you first log in on a new account:

I'm a new player to League of Legends Choose this option and you'll receive 50% more IP but 34% less XP until level 20

I'm not a new player to League of Legends Choose this option and you'll receive 50% more XP but 34% less IP until level 20

This'll make smurfs likely for choosing the last option. And yes it might be a bad idea but I don't care because someone might come up with a good one when reading this.

Porta Nova10/25/2014, 9:40:20 PM2 votes

Yeah. It's not like League is the most played moba on the planet or anything. Riot really need to work on getting new players.

If they can't handle losing? They shouldn't be playing a competitive game. Am I the only one who fought the bots until I had a reasonable grasp of the game?

AgniToast10/25/2014, 10:21:06 PM2 votes

There's no greater feeling as a noob than stomping a smurf.

Back when I started my friends smurfed for me to help teach my the basics, I believe I first played with karthas something pretty simple I did okay I guess and my second game I carried as crit plank I had no prior moba experience, and my enemies were about 50% noob 50% smurfs so I got a good mix, and even I had the tendency to go after the people who sucked more than I did... after my friends stuck with me and boosted my elo to godly levels, I started training on bots the intermediate ones back when they were quite a bit more challenging, IMO Veigar DFG+Stun+Q+w+R combo instantly launched by a bot was death lol, then when I was comfortable I jumped back into regular games, been doing just fine since, I'm not that great but I'm moderately good, even by bronze standards but due to trolling I doubt I'll ever escape the bronze, unless I'm placed in silver from prilems, which I get trolls there too so ~~~ fml

League does need some work I'll give it that, but if your friends just started and you'r concerned about smurfs raping your buddies, then you should probably smurf and help them in dealing with that kind of problem, I don't like how it's needed but if you don't want your friends to get faceraped 'tis the only way.

meg4mushr00m10/27/2014, 2:59:25 AM2 votes

Smurfs are annoying, every ones in a while i get placed with lvl 7s that get pentas. It's ridiculous because on top of getting a smurf, i also somehow end up fighting Gold players who are on their main. In my opinion, smurfs should not be allowed and a better matchmaking system is needed.