Zyras Rework isnt good as it should be like the other mages! My recommendation!

Kata Ga Kill·5/6/2016, 7:10:26 AM·1 votes·558 views

The new Zyra isnt good created she has still her old weaks and she cant compare to the others strong/op Mages like Malzahar, Brand.

The new passive has a great idea with more plants but on the other hand its bad for her too, because they spawn completly random, it cannot be controlled, like Illaoi and thats why no ones touching her anymore. It would be better if her W has more stacks or shorter CD. Also the passive is only a trail for hungry Assassins or a reveal for the enemy team whereever they are going, to Baron or Dragon? Sneaky Counter Team Attacks also are worse for the Zyra Team.

Also she has no defensive spell or escape (i was really hoping you would give her something like you have promise us to help her like the new strong passive from Malzahar). Her only defensiv was that that she could kill the engaged faster as the engage, she was great as a Burst-DPS-Zone-Mage like Azir. Also her Q nerfed overall for that and her Ultimate dont give her plants attackspeed anymore now, thats also a heavy DPS/defensiv lose.

I would recomment that her passive should be like Annivias/Aatrox/Leblancs that a flower is protecting her (like zhonyas effect) if her HP falls blelow under X% for 2-3 seconds and in this short time she can once shot a projectile (a projectile like her old passive and the same mechanic like Rivens Ultimate). And if she hits the enemy or enemys, they are stunned for 1-2 seconds. So she could, before her protecting stasis are going to end, shot the engager so she can esacpe to safety. Its also making the enemy thinking twice if they should engage on Zyra and makes her more unique. Actuall engager dont care about Zyra if they find her they dodge once her E and kill her.

Its sad that Riot still wants to put her in the support role, but she will never be good as a support....because of her plants and DMG, she only does Killsteal and steal farm from the ADC. Thats not how to support an ADC like a supporter should do. Dont force her in on a role where her kit never will be working.

And the last problem on her is, that er CDR on her W is now missing, that was unique on her, thats tells the people: "Guys i am a plant and plants are growing faster than flesh!" So the free CDR on W was really awesome so she reach her 40% CDR goal faster than other Mages. I dont understand why the plants are becoming HP, thats contradictory because her plants are diying anyway after short seconds. I would also recomend that the HP on her plants should be removed like Azirs soldiers, also her plants cannot be moved, so its should be fair.

I hope you read my post and send this to Riot. I and all Zyra Players would be Grateful. And sorry for my bad english.

4 Comments

Caraméla5/6/2016, 7:45:13 AM2 votes

i agree with you that she needs another passive cuz she got her w for seeds, just make her w stack 5 times, why not? i mean there is annie and veigar out there, i dont think 5 stacks of seeds would feel more broken than those... also this problem might have a simpler solution, revert the nerfs to the dmg of ALL of her abilities. she cant burst anymore not even with one of her skills

Goosetard5/6/2016, 8:01:30 AM1 votes

She got the best buff out of EVERYONE in the mage update:

+15 ms

From 325 to 340

That's enormous, and a huge deal for a mage w/ no escapes that relies on positioning. She has Vel'Koz base ms now.

Njallum5/6/2016, 9:20:44 AM1 votes

Zyra has plenty of defensive abilities, they're just less intuitive than those of far simpler mages like Brand or Malzahar. She relies on managing her resources, those being her seeds, ideally you want to build up a garden of sorts and then ensure you always have several seeds up. If you do this correctly then she can potentially 1v3 an incoming roam to mid, and potentially net a lot of kills. If you waste your seeds for harass then you leave yourself more and more exposed, as they have immense zoning potential. I've killed junglers before they even manage to enter my lane with well-placed plants and seeds.

runedara5/6/2016, 9:11:50 PM1 votes

I overall like the changes. Only thing is q feels a little weak right now. But it might just take time to get used to.