Anivia’s synergies with the new Keystone Masteries are pushing her to pretty absurd levels of power"

QueenD88·Dec 9, 2015·12 votes·2,580 views

Ahem... But somehow isn't?

Favoritism much Riot? I guess wanting a nerf to this cancer would be too much to ask because he has the same argument as (MUH SKILL CAP!)

and any excuse to buff that caramel cow again. You are so obvious Riot in your favoritism, it would be funny if it wasn't so tragic. Meanwhile you nerf champs that don't need it like and just because they are AP and doing a little better then .

also gets gutted with nerfs... so basically, why don't you just come out and say it... "We don't want anything but AD champions to be viable choices in the meta... unless they are AP Assassins like and ".

Thank you for utterly trying to destroy mages... AGAIN!

45 Comments

The Bearded BardDec 9, 20157 votes

Implying Anivia didn't need a nerf Implying Soraka didn't need a nerf Implying Akali is good in any way Implying Nidalee didn't need buffs

QueenD88Dec 9, 20152 votes

None of them needed nerfs, you do see Akali a lot more,

Nidalee did not need a buff because she is oppressive and toxic in her damage ANYWAY since all she needs to do is land a spear and jump on people. NOBODY likes her because of her stupid, spammable spears and easy jump range and the fact she can spam pounce and you can never catch her.

AATTRROOXXDec 9, 20152 votes

Your arguments all revolve around the strongest points of a champion, never looking at the weak points. Your arguments are so stupidly convoluted, that you have convinced yourself they are right by saying them so often. In no way are they actually correct.

The Bearded BardDec 9, 20151 votes

She's an assassin that's completely reliant on a slow moving, single target, skinny skillshot. She also brings absolutely no cc to a team, in fact the only utility she's got is her heal+asbuff, her extremely visible and shitty traps, and her ability to assassinate a target, which as I just mentioned, is based on a slow moving, single target, skinny skillshot.

Her 'spammable' pounce is short range and on a 5 second cd. She can't even jump over certain walls with it. There are shorter cooldown escapes with longer range.

Lady HammerlockDec 9, 20151 votes

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None of them needed nerfs, you do see a lot more,

did not need a buff because she is oppressive and toxic in her damage ANYWAY since all she needs to do is land a spear and jump on people. NOBODY likes her because of her stupid, spammable spears and easy jump range and the fact she can spam pounce and you can never catch her.

She isn't that strong atm actually you need to be really good at playing her for her to work she falls of hard late if your not good at her by far the most skillshot reliant assassin she did need those buffs and if you can't dodge those slow af spears in lane there's a big problem there...

SammystormDec 9, 20152 votes

All of them have spiked in popularity and all of them have received massive win rate increases. Which indicates that people not skilled with the champion are being successful at them. I honestly don't know why you don't see those champs but none of the nerfs are major and they all are still going to have meaningful impacts after the nerfs.

Anivia specifically will be fine. As some one who mains her it is pretty cheesy when I can chunk with her e after someone has flashed or a full 2 seconds after they leave my ult. Not that it really affects her play style at all. It just removes some cheese she had in her kit.

AATTRROOXXDec 9, 20157 votes

Some skulls are just too thick to penetrate. No matter how many facts and data are presented they just won't give up. Yours is one of those my friend.

Overpowered. http://www.louisaheinrich.com/wp-content/uploads/2015/03/inigo-montoya_that-word.jpg

Akali is SO HOTDec 9, 20156 votes

Yeah pressing E and R and doing half of your health is totally balanced. Malz has had over a 53% winrate for over a season and now that he is completely abusing a mastery there is no reason to not nerf him lol. You also have no idea how overpowered Soraka is right now because of the mega buffs she got with the changes to her healing and grevious wounds.

And if you actually had even a shred of knowledge about this game you would know that Riot absolutely hates Akali lol

PennsDec 9, 20151 votes

Rito doesnt hate Akali :vvvv

Akali is SO HOTDec 9, 20152 votes

idk if you're serious or not but

V5.2: Crescent Slash.png Crescent Slash No longer activates Mark of the Assassin.png Mark of the Assassin's secondary damage. Shadow Dance.png Shadow Dance Range reduced to 700 from 800. CLARITY: Fixed a bug where Shadow Dance stacks were not visible to other champions.

V4.18: Twilight Shroud.png Twilight Shroud No longer grants an armor and magic resistance buff while inside the shroud.

V3.5 (Balance Updates): Mark of the Assassin.png Mark of the Assassin Initial damage reduced to 35 / 55 / 75 / 95 / 115 from 45 / 70 / 95 / 120 / 145. Mark detonation damage ability power ratio increased to (+ 50% AP) from (+ 40% AP). Shadow Dance.png Shadow Dance Essence of Shadow charge rate increased to 35 / 25 / 15 seconds from 25 / 20 / 15.

V3.5: Twilight Shroud.png Twilight Shroud Akali is now immediately stealthed/revealed upon entering/leaving the Shroud zone. Akali is now immediately stealthed when casting Twilight Shroud directly on herself. Akali is now revealed from stealth upon casting a spell or beginning an attack rather than upon dealing damage. Delay on re-stealthing increased by 0.15 seconds.

V3.02: Twin Disciplines.png Twin Disciplines Twin Disciplines.png Discipline of Force Now takes effect immediately instead of requiring 19.5 ability power. Base damage bonus reduced to 6% from 8%. Twin Disciplines.png Discipline of Might Now takes effect immediately instead of requiring 9.5 attack damage. Base spell vamp bonus reduced to 6% from 8%.

Seems like a ton of nerfs to me with little to no compensation every time she gets nerfed. And the compensation she gets does almost nothing for her lol

Edit: She even got nerfed and then hotfix nerfed right after in 3.5 lmao

PennsDec 9, 20151 votes

Tank/ bruiser Akali top is pretty next level atm tho.. I wouldnt be surprised if she got nerfed again soon lol

ChangelingDec 9, 20151 votes

The enemy team has plenty of opportunity to take care of Anivia before she gets that powerful.

Akali is SO HOTDec 9, 20151 votes

You can see that about any champion in the game. Anivia is actually really safe during laning because she can escape by ulting you and slowing you, using her wall, or stunning you with her Q. Akali is the equivalent of a cannon minion against 90% of her matchups and if they buy a pink ward she might as well not exist lol.

SammystormDec 9, 20156 votes

Anivia is by no means gutted and she is at absurd power levels right now.

Meep ManDec 9, 20151 votes

This. They lowered the slow duration and reduced the range by 200. Whatever.

StrawberrycocoaDec 9, 20155 votes

Well Yasuo (thank GOD) can't deny half a lanes-width of area just by toggling an ability and remaining nearby it. And with Rylai's/Liandries and the Deathfire Keystone, she can add a lot of pain to that area.

M0b1usDec 9, 20153 votes

Riot just wants the meta to be focused only on ADC and snowballing. Anivia is hard to snowball against so she gets nerfed. Basically, Riot is forcing a meta and nerfing any and all champs who can possibly slow the game down. Hence why Karthus wall was nerfed as well. I bet we will see Lux nerfs soon as well. Rather than admit that they made a mistake, they would rather change everything else to try and make them look good.

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Well Yasuo (thank GOD) can't deny half a lanes-width of area just by toggling an ability and remaining nearby it. And with Rylai's/Liandries and the Deathfire Keystone, she can add a lot of pain to that area.

If your building item 3116 on Anivia, you really have no idea how to play her considering the only damaging spell she has that doesn't slow is E. The last time Anivia's damage was directly changed (other than her ult dealing 1 tick of damage upon deactivation) was a small nerf to her E when NASUS WAS RELEASED. Can't you see the bias Riot is showing? Crit based champions were absolutely wrecking, so they just nerfed the mastery. Now that some AP champs are doing well with certain masteries, they are nerfing BOTH. Riot is portraying the perfect definition of hypocritical.

StrawberrycocoaDec 9, 20151 votes

You're right she doesn't need Rylais, my fault on that.

I completely agree with you though. The entire game is balanced around ADCs, and anything that gets too strong against them gets nerfed to keep them in line.

Robbit MangDec 9, 20155 votes

Uhhhhhhhh, this post is just EXTREMELY biased.

Yes, yasuo is complete aids to play against that is a fact, but he is not nearly as strong as Anivia brand and malz with death fire touch.

Proof? Yasuos winrate after warriors bloodlust went from 48% to 52%. Big increase, actually has a positive winrate now!

Anivias went to around 56-57% (WOW), brand around 57%, malz sitting comfy around 55.6%

What do you think is less balanced? A near 60% winrate or just barely above 50%.

B I A S

QueenD88Dec 9, 20153 votes

winrate is not a true indication of power because of the noobs who play this champion. You wanna call me Biased but I am SICK of the BIAS that Riot shows to every AD champion in this game.

Robbit MangDec 9, 20153 votes

The stats I used were from plat+ ranked where people actually have a clue what they're doing :)

Malz has always had ~55% winrate, his nerfs were tiny and won't really affect him. What really pushed these champs up was death fire touch witch made them pretty op. It's just getting a small duration nerf of like .5 sec and brand will still be broken as fuck.

QueenD88Dec 9, 20152 votes

Again, its still not a valid indication of a champions power or OPness, yes Anivia has powerful burst but she has limited defensive options which unlike Yasuo cannot spam shields or windwalls for no cost at all.

Robbit MangDec 9, 20156 votes

Uhhh limited defensive skils? She literally has a second life and can summon an impassable wall out of thin air, along with a stun and a MASSIVE slow field. Yasuos shields and dashes don't even come CLOSE to comparing to Anivias safety

PuynsiDec 9, 20151 votes

Impassable

HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA!

SammystormDec 9, 20151 votes

Anivia is like the safest champ in the game. She has 2 health bars a stun that ignores spell shields a wall and slows and atk speed slows. Honestly it seems like you have no idea what you are talking about.

Akali is SO HOTDec 9, 20151 votes

tfw Yasuo has to go into melee range to do damage and has a 1 second shield and an unreliable defense spell while Anivia can 100-0 you from range, a stun, a huge ass wall, and 2 life bars

NemeBroDec 9, 20153 votes

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Again, its still not a valid indication of a champions power or OPness, yes has powerful burst but she has limited defensive options which unlike cannot spam shields or windwalls for no cost at all.

http://champion.gg/statistics/#?roleSort=Middle&sortBy=general.deaths&order=descend

Notice how Anivia has literally the least amount of deaths of any mid laner, and Yasuo the most in the lane. Actually, Yasuo dies more than any other champion in the game,

Anivia is ranged, and has a lot of CC to keep her safe, as well as two health bars. Yasuo is melee, and only has two ways to mitigate damage.

Oh, and you think that Akali is overpowered or favored by Riot? Lol.

Yasuo and Akali have received almost nothing but nerfs.

ProfDrDeathDec 9, 20151 votes

After Warlord's/Shiv nerfs, Yas does even have 52% win rate anymore. Currently, he's at 46.5% for mid and 47% for top.

TrídentDec 9, 20154 votes

Every champ who can't make LC$BigPlayz and does somewhat well against champs that can must be nerfed. -Rito

Hayaishi2Dec 9, 20154 votes

Yes lets ignore Anivia's bullshit. Doing half your laners HP with just RE and 200ap AP its retarded.

She wasnt balanced deal with it.

SammystormDec 9, 20152 votes

That is a rather low ap number to be doing half your hp bar. Usually if she is chunking that hard she has 400-600 ap. So stop spouting random bull shit please.

Akali is SO HOTDec 9, 20151 votes

She doesn't even need 100AP early game to take half of your life with an ER. Late Game she does even more with about 300 to 400 while chunking and slowing the rest of your team

SammystormDec 9, 20151 votes

I have never chunked half a health bar with less then 300-600 ap. Does her RE combo hurt? yes and it will chunk you hard. If you are squishy and have no mr and anivia hits her re combo on you then yes you will lose half or more of your health bar.

Slowing the rest of the team is dependent on the anivia. Good ones will zone control bad ones won't. Usually she doesn't slow more then 1 or 2 people though.

PuynsiDec 9, 20153 votes

Rito will try to kill mages again, and fail miserably, again, and we will laught at them, again, and they will overhaul the meta again so we can keep laughing at them.

Shac NorrisDec 9, 20152 votes

Anivia can't make as many #bigLc$plays as Yasuo, therefor she deserves a nerf

QueenD88Dec 9, 20153 votes

Yup, that is totally the reason, you hit the nail on the head mate. Yasuo is more flashy... therefore he deserves to be more powerful, like Zed and LeeSin . This patch is a disgusting middle finger to any mage main who tried to find a mage that survived the preseason gutting.

NiyumiDec 9, 20152 votes

Well, here's the difference: Yasuo has a relatively high mechanical requirement, and has a harsh learning curve (but takes no effort once you do learn him), and you can't just click on people from halfway across lane and kill them with no counterplay or anything.

Anivia, on the other hand, just R>Es you to death, and you instantly die to balance, even though E is targeted. She has far too easy a time applying her ridiculous damage, and that's why she needs a nerf.

QueenD88Dec 9, 20152 votes

Incoming Yasuo main who tries to defend why his champion should be the most cancerous thing in the game, with multiple shields to block poke, free dashes, 100% crit in 2 items etc. No... not overloaded at all.

NiyumiDec 9, 20152 votes

Well, considering Yasuo has one of the lowest mastery scores of all my rank 5 champs, I'd say I'm not a Yas main. :P In fact... I don't even remember the last time I played him.

If you don't want to admit that Anivia takes no effort and has virtually no counterplay, outside of never go near her, (while Yas has a lot of counterplay potential, and takes a bit of effort to pull off), then you really have no credibility at all. She's like Annie, but worse.

SammystormDec 9, 20152 votes

I honestly don't understand your post. Anivia, Malz, Brand, Soraka, and Karthus are all pretty absurd right now. Them being absurd doesn't mean that Yasuo can't be absurd too. Most of the nerfs are love taps that really don't affect the champions very much.

Akali has been garbage for most of her league career. At best a pub stomper but usually just bad.

This patch has been a colossal buff to a lot of mages. The PBE patch is a attempt to fix it so that AP champs don't run rampant and shit on everything.

How does Yasuo and Lee (who have individually received more nerfs then all of mage nerfs combined) have anything to do with Riot "hating" mages. In fact where do you get that opinion. Your post doesn't really clarify that or really make much sense at all.

HemopartyDec 9, 20151 votes

Let's be honest though. Unless her carry is utterly failing to do meaningful damage to the enemy botlane, Soraka is a pain to deal with. I don't agree with the exact manner of her nerfs, but she had one coming.

BruceyDec 9, 20151 votes

Just reading this on how over reacting you guys are, i feel no difference she's still would be one of the top 5 mid lanes right now yes she has gotten given a nerf (Really small nerf) but I've played her and it felt no difference but please keep rambling on about how riot is biased.