Vayne just did an enormous amount of damage in a very little amount of time.

KFC Cashier·Aug 8, 2015·2 votes·1,148 views

So let's calculate: Auto ~ 600 Crit Damage +8% current health> Tumble + Auto + Crit + 8% current health ~ 950 Dmg > Silver Bolts + Auto Crit + 8% Current Health ~ 1,000 Damage > Bork Active 250 Magic Damage > Tumble + Auto + Crit + 8% Current Health ~ 950 Damage.

Why can vayne do this much damage in just a few autos and all within a few seconds while jumping around everywhere and going invisible? Not to mention that she gets a movement speed buff when running towards enemies.

14 Comments

InphernalAug 8, 20156 votes

stop laying out a champs stats on a dissection table and claiming that theyre op. all champs are op on paper, these threads have been around for years because people just want to complain

practically vayne is in a reasonable state of balance.

AtheosisXAug 8, 20154 votes

Rofl...Vayne ain't balanced...

InphernalAug 8, 20154 votes

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Rofl...Vayne ain't balanced...

then give me an example that isnt just laying out a bunch of stats and going "i got my ass kicked by a vayne waah" vayne currently as a 51.6 win rate with a 34% pick rate btw

AtheosisXAug 8, 20151 votes

Her above 50% win rate with that kind of popularity should give you a clue, especially since she's one of the more skill intensive ADCs (which should in theory drop her win rate). The issue with Vayne right now is simply that her "weak early game" just isn't that weak while she remains one of the strongest late game ADCs in the game. There's a reason so many people are picking her at all levels of play, and it isn't because she's balanced.

Live2LetDieAug 8, 20151 votes

Win rate is not a stat that should be used to determine op. Low elo players are funny haha

AtheosisXAug 8, 20151 votes

I'm not the one who brought up win rates.

KFC CashierAug 8, 20152 votes

Vayne is not balanced by any means

Sona PingAug 8, 20152 votes

Wonderful argument. Well done.

TipherithAug 8, 20153 votes

(1) Ahri - Charm - 500 damage + 2.25 sec cc ->auto from lich bane: 400 damage-> QW -> 400+(400true) + 600 damage -> 2R : 300*2 = 600 damage -> R: 300 damage -> one more auto from lich bane - 400 damage.

Total : 3200 +(400 true if hit)

(2) you can't only compare late game damage, vayne dies more in early game. Some champs are "must-win" in late game while others are dominant in early game and make them ff at 20.

Balance can't be calculated in that way.

KFC CashierAug 8, 20151 votes

Did I say Ahri is not broken?

Cowgirl EdAug 8, 20152 votes

because MUH PLAYS MUH RIGHT CLICKS

Posui GartAug 8, 20151 votes

And then enemy Xerath oneshots her with W-Q from 3x her attack range before she enters the teamfight. High risk, high reward.

MLDzXnRRRAug 8, 20151 votes

She attacks really fast... but her DPS is shit compared to 6 slotted Yi who can get penta with just spamming Q (what is the counterplay? don't go near him? or CC him - I would, if he wasn't untargetable)

Live2LetDieAug 8, 20151 votes

Hahaha cc and a pink. Learn to play the game before complaining about it.