The real problem with edge of night

Mechakaiser·2/20/2017, 1:57:26 PM·1 votes·746 views

There is a problem with item 3814 , I think we all agree on that. For the last week there has been a daily post asking for the item to get gutted/removed. For me, it is cristal clear that the only change Riot needs to make here is to nerf lethality, but not so much that it's worse than its previous state, you know, when nobody ever complained about item 3814 and lethality itemization because they were too weak.

However, some people (ehem quinn mains ehem) don't seem to share this opinion, cause "item 3814 is fine. If you think it's op use it yourself". Well guys, there is a huge problem here, edge of night (in its current state) makes ad champions infinitely better than ap champions. Why? It is a damage item with a defensive mechanic, a telegraphed spellshield. Now lets compare it to its equivalent por ap champions, item 3157 . This item gives you some damage and a defensive mechanic too. Bot defensive mechanics are different, because they tackle different issues, ap champions (in general) want to use all their spells in the shortest time possible have some free time to recharge their cooldowns, ad champions need a more prolonged time to apply their damage without being interrupted, the spellshield perfectly acomplishes this.

BUT, there is another thing to take into consideration here, imagine you are against Orianna in lane and she builds item 3157, she is giving up a lot of damage to get that estasis, she gets some cdr, which is nice, but she'd have a ton more kill pressure if she had build a item 3165. On the other hand, item 3814 gives you a more than decent kill pressure, a Quinn or a Talon with it are a real treat to your team, and thats the only problem with item 3814, the spellshield is completely fine, hell, nobody writes posts about how broken item 3102 (clue, because it isn't) which has a better spellshield than item 3814. The only problem here is that an ad hibrid item has more damage than it's ap counterpart, that's it.

11 Comments

Starcraft243ver2/20/2017, 2:11:26 PM1 votes

item 3156 item 3814 item 3139

The problem is there are 3 AD/MR items, and only 1 AP/AR item. (oh well, Zeke, lol lmao).

Asayake 5150glow2/20/2017, 2:49:11 PM1 votes

Honestly assassins will oneshot you with nothing but a Dirk.

RoyalMachine2/20/2017, 2:59:59 PM1 votes

The item is fine, because ad champions usually have to get close to do their thing, and abilities like knockups/knockbacks have no counterplay most of the time.

the cooldown is too short however , that buff needs to be reverted probably so the users will have to time it wisely.

Erockandroll2/21/2017, 2:36:03 PM1 votes

This has Kinda been my argument. EoN is way too slot efficient for the Defensive utility it gives you.

So instead of it being a niche pick up for it's spell shield, it's a powerful AD/Lethality stat boost that comes with a spell shield.