The only nerf Zed would ever need.

Maximum Morde··7 votes·380 views

Zed's shadows can now be killed, in one hit like a blue trinket ward, and reward 5g for doing so. I just wanna pick Susan and stack all game.

Edit: There would have to be a short delay before they are targetable to allow them to actually be used. Like .75 seconds or so.

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KrugLyfe1 votes

Or just make it so he can only teleport back to his w shadow and not his ultimate or have a limited range on the ultimate shadow.

Thresh Outta Fux1 votes

In addition, we also have these options:

  • Summoner spell that does not slow/reduce damage, but disables movement boosting/flashing/dashing abilities on the targeted champion for 8s.\
  • Applying CC to Zed's Shadow applies it to Zed, have Shadow share Zed's healthbar and if Zed switches places, a portion of the damage dealt to the shadow is applied as a DOT (some damage can be mitigated with his ultimate, for super skillzy playz.)
  • Sticky spells like Malz's E, Zilean Q, Tristana E, will jump from Shadow to Zed (no matter the distance) if the shadow disappears before the spell effect ends.

As it stands, using Zed's shadow has a grand total of ZERO risk required. Provided we can add some meaningful counterplay to his shadow, there's a chance Zed might even be able to get some buffs to reward skilled players, and punish those who are not.

Karma Deified1 votes

How does one of the two and the weaker of the two most telegraphed mobility spells in the game have no counterplay.

I love Zed as a jungler. Rarely do I see any other champ waste their escape on harass so frequently.

"ZERO risk" wtf man...

VasilisGreen1 votes

How do you strike something that is immaterial??? When you find a legit and reasonable answer, i will gladly accept to play with such a nerf

Maximum Morde2 votes

To humor you, just like a puff of smoke or steam, you swing at it and the force causes wind turbulence that dissipates the cloud.

Now that that is said, it's a video game and doesn't even require anything to make sense, or Zed's shadows wouldn't be able to hit you with their blades or throw shurikens at you anyway XD.

VasilisGreen1 votes

Well, can you hit a Ghost? No. Can a ghost hit you? Yes. it's kinda like that.

Boulderox1 votes

how does an etherial tentacle hit you and or you hit it backIllaoi ?

VasilisGreen1 votes

Etherial is not immaterial. immaterial means, no matter, substance, nothingness. i don't know other words to describe it in english.

Boulderox1 votes

ok then zeds shadows are etherial-like shadows, as they can damage you, meaning they have matter/substance.

VasilisGreen1 votes

Pure energy can hit and damage you and it is still immaterial. Magic itself is immaterial and it can hurt you. that's what his shadows are. Shadow energy. You can't hurt them or interract with them but they can hurt you and interract with you.

Boulderox1 votes

Then how can you argue ethereal is not pure magic but is substance when actually ethereal is in essence magic

arcinex1 votes

That is a refreshingly new idea. I actually think it could work but Zed would also need to have a delay before being able to cast his Q or E accordingly (think of Gangplank).

Lugg1 votes

They had Zed balanced already with the delay to swap shadows. However, Zed players whined about their lack of freelo until Riot gave in and reverted it.

supersonic21 votes

what if they nerfed zed by lowering his energy bar to 150?

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