Runic Echoe's has been nerfed in 6.4.. what about elise's nerfs due to it?

Tormentula··2 votes·1,163 views

Elise got the nerf hammer pretty hard recently due to runic echoes. While the damage is still relevant, her actual movement speed was nerfed and reduced because of the 10% runic echoes boost.

Bychance could we revert elise's MS back to how it originally was now? Runic echoes got a -3% MS nerf, yet elise was slowed already because of it.

Right now elise is taking the nerfs of patch 6.2:

  • 5 MS in both forms (330 -> 325 human, 355 -> 350 spider)
  • 15 ap scaling on her W (75/125/175/225/275 - > 60/110/160/210/260) - This is reasonable and in 6.4 this will be hitting her as well: Runic echoes nerf,
  • 3% MS speed increase (10% -> 7%)

I can see the damage nerf but elise is pretty slow right now.. A movement speed nerf was not needed for top, mid, or cinderhulk elise, it was needed for runic echoes elise, however now that runic echoes is nerfed, it would make more sense to give the top, mid, cinderhulk, and nerfed runic echoes elise her MS back to atleast balance the changes made from the past (Not saying those elise sets should be meta but they were possible). I mean elise has the same MS in spider form as pantheon right now.. Elise item 3070

EDIT forgot that the boots of swiftness + Deadman's plate were also nerfed in 6.3, two MS items elise relied on too.

7 Comments

Dominick Destine3 votes

Evelynn received a series of never ending nerfs ... some because of Runeglaive which was then removed. She has received nothing.

AngelSpite1 votes

[{quoted}](name=Dominick Destine,realm=NA,application-id=3ErqAdtq,discussion-id=nq6T0124,comment-id=0002,timestamp=2016-02-20T00:01:20.827+0000)

Evelynn received a series of never ending nerfs ... some because of Runeglaive which was then removed. She has received nothing.

All of them were because of Runeglaive.

Dominick Destine1 votes

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All of them were because of Runeglaive.

You must not have been playing for very long.

AngelSpite1 votes

[{quoted}](name=Dominick Destine,realm=NA,application-id=3ErqAdtq,discussion-id=nq6T0124,comment-id=000200000000,timestamp=2016-02-20T01:22:34.358+0000)

You must not have been playing for very long.

I have been playing Eve for a very long time. I was talking about the recent nerfs.

WngNut2 votes

Riot has said that they don't think either nerfs will hurt her TOO hard, but they also said if it does hurt her they likely won't hesitate to give her her movespeed back.

Grashnim1 votes

One patch Riot will get jungle items right. I have a feeling that day will come. Or more wisely, they'll remove them and make the camps easier.

Cenobite Azaziel1 votes

Cry me a river. Elise still is at 50 win rate with 12% pick rate. Jungle kayle in the other hand that got mauled to death by ranged devourer nerf (hi kindred!) still got her 5 damage shaved out. An AA champion.

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