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Suicide Sion allows a single player to dictate both teams. And it is inspiring toxic people.

Zeppelins circus··13 votes·6,423 views

...So much for the "teamplay" you are pushing Riot. Most of them are not thinking strategically as the founding person envisioned. That person had nearly perfect CS, DID group to use his massive lead and ult to initiate. Had TP and it was carefully planned. Now some people got the warm and fuzzies and cute ideas, that there are now even top/mid/jungle players who use this as a excuse to not get banned, and get a free pass to afk farm and int to shut their mind off to lose, or keep doing it so he can get carried by the other 4 in a pure game of luck.

Ex.

  1. Support autofill blitzcrank who got two tear items, triforce. Goes to top turret and dies there. 14 deaths.
  2. Mid malzahar, never groups even if he has teleport. Says he will never group because he did not got a gank. Goes to top turret. Says he is doing the op meta sion strat.
  3. Support morgana, feeds brand, goes ad morgana. Says "knows what he is doing and you all are noobs" Goes to bot turret.

I've had nearly more than 10 people doing this playstyle this weekend incorrectly, and I was silver 1 lp 75, and now I'm silver 3 in 2 days. I'm sick and tired.

I've also got instant feedback near amount of 3 just this weekend. Save us all riot.

32 Comments

WukongMain6 votes

Fun Fact : Banning sion 100% counters the Suicide Sion strat.

[zombie-brand-mindblown]

Zeppelins circus5 votes

{quoted}

Fun Fact : Banning sion 100% counters the Suicide Sion strat.

[zombie-brand-mindblown]

I updated it. It is not even about the strat anymore. They think they can pull it off with other champions AFTER they fed. And say they are "helping."

WukongMain3 votes

this is amusing to me because when i used to play with groups of 5 back in the day i'd always meme inting to win. Giving my team massive shutdowns and baiting the enemy into doing weird shit.

i'd be like 0/10 worth no gold but a bunch of enemy still chasing me over defending their tower lmao. Good times good times.

i'd never try in it a regular game though, That's the type of play style you need everyone in voice comms in and on the same page.

Slim Gragas2 votes

{quoted}

Fun Fact : Banning sion 100% counters the Suicide Sion strat.

[zombie-brand-mindblown]

This guy thinks it's ok for something to be unbalanced if you can ban it. xd

WukongMain1 votes

this guy is obviously memeing XD.

Automated Riven3 votes

Dude, everything you and everyone in your team does is just as ill thought as your Sion ulting under tower players. Otherwise you wouldn't be in silver.

Zeppelins circus2 votes

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Dude, everything you and everyone in your team does is just as ill thought as your Sion ulting under tower players. Otherwise you wouldn't be in silver.

don't tell me when you made your new account you were placed in diamond winning 10 games.

Automated Riven1 votes

[{quoted}](name=Zeppelins circus,realm=NA,application-id=3ErqAdtq,discussion-id=neiQWiW4,comment-id=00000000,timestamp=2018-10-15T02:18:02.619+0000)

don't tell me when you made your new account you were placed in diamond winning 10 games.

No. I don't play league. I quit months ago. That being said the highest I ever ranked was silver 1. Because I am absolute garbage at the game and never executed a iota of critical thought to trying to make good decisions.

So I know exactly what type of people your playing with. Hell you could have played with me. And it's a shit ton of people who don't ward well. Auto pilot through games, don't watch the minimap. And so on. I don't have to be high elo to say silver is garbage. Because I was silver and I was garbage.

The difference between me and you is that I don't blame my teammates for my own poor play.

Zeppelins circus3 votes

[{quoted}](name=Automated Riven,realm=NA,application-id=3ErqAdtq,discussion-id=neiQWiW4,comment-id=000000000000,timestamp=2018-10-15T02:59:13.754+0000)

No. I don't play league. I quit months ago. That being said the highest I ever ranked was silver 1. Because I am absolute garbage at the game and never executed a iota of critical thought to trying to make good decisions.

So I know exactly what type of people your playing with. Hell you could have played with me. And it's a shit ton of people who don't ward well. Auto pilot through games, don't watch the minimap. And so on. I don't have to be high elo to say silver is garbage. Because I was silver and I was garbage.

The difference between me and you is that I don't blame my teammates for my own poor play.

The only two difference between you and me, is the capacity to read correctly and quit league or not. And those two makes your opinion worthless at this gameplay section since you do not experience what is going on in soloque.

Automated Riven1 votes

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The only two difference between you and me, is the capacity to read correctly and quit league or not. And those two makes your opinion worthless at this gameplay section since you do not experience what is going on in soloque.

Dude, I played league since season 1. There is nothing that your experiencing in solo que Now that I haven't played through at least 100 times before.

DOUBLE TAPPED E2 votes

I saw a reworked Ezreal get a pentakill, bet you haven't experienced that.

Automated Riven2 votes

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I saw a reworked Ezreal get a pentakill, bet you haven't experienced that.

Fair point. I haven't seen the new ezreal. However I did see old talon get two pentas in 1 game. Right before the entire enemy team flamed him for playing a no skill champ.

Zeppelins circus1 votes

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Dude, I played league since season 1. There is nothing that your experiencing in solo que Now that I haven't played through at least 100 times before.

You said you quit sir.

Automated Riven1 votes

[{quoted}](name=Zeppelins circus,realm=NA,application-id=3ErqAdtq,discussion-id=neiQWiW4,comment-id=000000000000000000000001,timestamp=2018-10-15T05:20:19.099+0000)

You said you quit sir.

Ya, a few months ago. There isn't anything you have seen that I haven't played through before. This isn't even the first time that people have played suicide Sion styles. Proxy singed was basically the same strat. Your complaining about teammates when it's your fault your in low elo. TLDR, git gud>climb.

You obviously never played during the Disco nunu times.

Zeppelins circus1 votes

[{quoted}](name=Automated Riven,realm=NA,application-id=3ErqAdtq,discussion-id=neiQWiW4,comment-id=0000000000000000000000010000,timestamp=2018-10-15T05:40:43.657+0000)

Ya, a few months ago. There isn't anything you have seen that I haven't played through before. This isn't even the first time that people have played suicide Sion styles. Proxy singed was basically the same strat. Your complaining about teammates when it's your fault your in low elo. TLDR, git gud>climb.

You obviously never played during the Disco nunu times.

Sorry. I'll say it once more. You have quit. Your existence is now irrelevant since it is now long gone history.

YuGiHo3 votes

I always hate when strategies like this (usually involving singed) pop up. Allowing 1 player to dictate the flow of the game isnt something i think belongs in league.

Pelopas2 votes

I did this twice, 1st as rammus then as cho - got banned for the cho game even though I proved to be more effective on the map than Ryze or Twitch.

Not in ranked btw - in norms

https://imgur.com/a/JlpL10P

https://imgur.com/a/xf4Yep1

Zeppelins circus7 votes

{quoted}

I did this twice, 1st as rammus then as cho - got banned for the cho game even though I proved to be more effective on the map than Ryze or Twitch.

Not in ranked btw - in norms

https://imgur.com/a/JlpL10P

https://imgur.com/a/xf4Yep1

You are lvl 11 at your rammus game while the other are at lvl 14. You do not even have the items or cs to be tanky.

Pelopas1 votes

You realize rammus gains like 100-150 free armor for like 6 seconds. I could tank around 10 towers shots before I went down

Fegone2 votes

{quoted}

I did this twice, 1st as rammus then as cho - got banned for the cho game even though I proved to be more effective on the map than Ryze or Twitch.

Not in ranked btw - in norms

https://imgur.com/a/JlpL10P

https://imgur.com/a/xf4Yep1

I'm glad you got banned, saves me the problem to accidentally be on the same team with you. Good job Riot.

Pelopas1 votes

Yikes brings the toxicness out in apparent "non toxic" players too

Fegone1 votes

{quoted}

Yikes brings the toxicness out in apparent "non toxic" players too

Call it what you want, I'm glad he's gone, 99% of the players are, and Riot is too. Be the 1% if you want.

Pelopas1 votes

Your reply makes zero sense whatsoever

Rexxiee2 votes

What did you expect, riot barely bans anyone for inting.

So if you want to piss someone off instead of tpying you just int, as long as you dont do it literally 24/7 non stop no system will ever catch you, and as bonus you can say only ironic things in chat "op meta strat boys" for example.

JackMcSnipeyz2 votes

Same shit happened when MF support was picked in the LCS to just counter pick zyra, then suddenly everyone are MF support mains against shit like leona.

Pika Fox1 votes

Thats when you break out the ezreal support, duh.

Agent Corgi1 votes

I played a game the other day where the toplaner on my team Played Ziggs top with Grasp & Demolish. He laned against a Renekton & had a final score of 2/11, Renekton went on to be 15/7 & just floored everyone that he stumbled upon.

Zeppelins circus4 votes

{quoted}

I played a game the other day where the toplaner on my team Played Ziggs top with Grasp & Demolish. He laned against a Renekton & had a final score of 2/11, Renekton went on to be 15/7 & just floored everyone that he stumbled upon.

FIrst on, the Sion player carefully picks himself against a tank that has no risk of doing damage. he never picks it against really strong fighter champs that can 1v4 his team. Or even have the slight possibility of breaching his backline. He planned it careful and clever. That is why it was genius. he also had near perfect cs.

Now these, people think they can opt to this after they feed to hell, and troll their mates so they will press the FF button fast because THEY are not carrying. Hell even if they have a 20 kill kaisa they will NOT STOP. Because they are not the ones that are carrying and wins do not matter if they are not in the spotlight.

DOUBLE TAPPED E1 votes

I faced a Sion mid yesterday as Kat, stomped the ever living shit out of him. I even had conqueror leftover from ARAMs by mistake... (Actually not the worst rune ever, have to say)

Slim Gragas1 votes

Also this is a problem with how weak towers/inhibs are, i mean its totally interactive for a Tryndamere or Sion for example to run it down all game with demolish limiting you in the amount of time you have to win. Unless you want to send 4 people to go kill Sion and his passive form while he chunks at you're turret, while the rest of his team takes every other objective? Especially late-game, hes unkillable without most of you're team, at-least Tryndamere is "squishy" despite having an ultimate that makes you invulnerable, still not nearly as frustrating as inting Sion.

Stil though, this is more of a problem with the insane damage overall this season and how weak turrets are.

WoodenCreature1 votes

People forget that this strat isnt about inting it's about pushing as much as possible. Just because D4 inter ints during splitpush is his own mistake ur supposed to kill towers but not just running in doing chip damage to the towers and basically running it down. Sion is just a good splitpusher due to demolish and him being able to stack 6-10k hp being undead. Stop calling it inting sion it's just another smart splitpush tactic.

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