Jhin Stormrazor

n0juice·May 31, 2018·2 votes·4,267 views

Hey everyone I was hoping someone could possibly help me out.... I see a new item out "stormrazor" i was just curious if this would be a good weapon for jhin! any feed back is greatly appreciated

8 Comments

whizkid75May 31, 20182 votes

Yes. It will be a good item on Jhin. Considering his AA reload is 2.5 seconds, it practically guarentees 4th shot crit and first shot. Plus the attack speed boosts his move speed. Since item 3508 is not longer a jhin item and item 3031 has been changed to a later game item. Stormrazor most likely will be a 1st or 2nd item on him.

Waffle SlayerJun 2, 20181 votes

This info is incorrect, attack speed does not boost his movement speed. Having more attack speed will increase his damage. Whenever jhin hits a critical hit that ISN’T his fourth shot it does 25% less damage, but he gets a short burst of movement speed.

whizkid75Jun 4, 20183 votes

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This info is incorrect, attack speed does not boost his movement speed. Having more attack speed will increase his damage. Whenever jhin hits a critical hit that ISN’T his fourth shot it does 25% less damage, but he gets a short burst of movement speed.

Actually this ^^ is incorrect :P or maybe I should have clarified. I meant the attack speed from Stormrazor boosts his move speed ON-CRIT. Since, after every crit he gets his boost of MS that scales with AS.

Pika FoxJun 2, 20181 votes

It supposedly nerfs his 4th hit damage atm unless they fixed it. Try it in the training mode.

KheraeJun 14, 20181 votes

the item is worse than worthless on jhin. taking it nerfs you. Not only does it not increase his crit damage AT ALL (tested with the training tool), it also nerfs his 4th shot.

level 18, with phantom, infinity and this, 389 crit damage with or without stormrazor level 18 with phantom, cannon, shiv, and this (for interaction testing): 397 crits, with or without.

Elite4RunnerJun 27, 20181 votes

I want to answer this from two perspectives, .. the effectiveness of the item, and the effectiveness of Jhin.

The most important drawback that I think you may be asking about is ..

If you haven't basic attacked for 3 - 0.38 (based on BONUS ATTACK SPEED) seconds, gain Storm's Edge.

This doesn't really work very well at all since Jhin's passive prevents him from gaining BONUS attack speed in any way other than leveling. At level 18, this cooldown will only get down to 1.99 seconds.

Because of this, you could say that it is not effective on Jhin because other champions can essentially gain the ability to crit on every auto attack without pausing at all.

However, Jhin does gain a lot of advantages from this item.

He scales very hard on AD, and the attack speed that this item offers. With the item alone, around level 6, he is effectively gaining about 90 bonus attack damage due to his passive.

It is not all that likely that you will be attacking constantly unless you are hard pushing, so waiting about between 3 - 2 seconds (based on level) with guaranteed crits will cause you to hit like a truck.

The other benefit from his passive will cause you to gain bonus movement speed (which does scale on attack speed, to support WHIZKID75) for every critical strike.

Every Moment Matters: Jhin's critical strikes grant him 10% (+ 0.4% per 1% bonus attack speed) bonus movement speed for 2 seconds, but his critical strikes deal 25% less damage.

Honestly, I would consider this part to be his biggest buff. That movement speed is no joke! This gives him immense pressure and safety.

As for the bug/nerf that people are claiming here. .. I'm not really all that familiar with the details, but the only thing I could think of is that the Storm's Edge scaling overrides his 4th shot scaling. If this is the case, .. there is actually a pretty simple solution. Use your 3rd shot, then use your 4th shot before Storm's Edge comes back up. ... Problem solved.

So, in my opinion, .. YES! Stormrazor is good on Jhin.

whizkid75Jun 28, 20181 votes

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I want to answer this from two perspectives, .. the effectiveness of the item, and the effectiveness of Jhin.

The most important drawback that I think you may be asking about is ..

This doesn't really work very well at all since Jhin's passive prevents him from gaining BONUS attack speed in any way other than leveling. At level 18, this cooldown will only get down to 1.99 seconds.

Because of this, you could say that it is not effective on Jhin because other champions can essentially gain the ability to crit on every auto attack without pausing at all.

However, Jhin does gain a lot of advantages from this item.

He scales very hard on AD, and the attack speed that this item offers. With the item alone, around level 6, he is effectively gaining about 90 bonus attack damage due to his passive.

It is not all that likely that you will be attacking constantly unless you are hard pushing, so waiting about between 3 - 2 seconds (based on level) with guaranteed crits will cause you to hit like a truck.

The other benefit from his passive will cause you to gain bonus movement speed (which does scale on attack speed, to support WHIZKID75) for every critical strike.

Honestly, I would consider this part to be his biggest buff. That movement speed is no joke! This gives him immense pressure and safety.

As for the bug/nerf that people are claiming here. .. I'm not really all that familiar with the details, but the only thing I could think of is that the Storm's Edge scaling overrides his 4th shot scaling. If this is the case, .. there is actually a pretty simple solution. Use your 3rd shot, then use your 4th shot before Storm's Edge comes back up. ... Problem solved.

So, in my opinion, .. YES! Stormrazor is good on Jhin.

Great run down of the item! However, luckily your last paragraph's strategy is no longer necessary :)

V8.12 BUG FIX: No longer overrides Jhin's fourth shot from Whisper.

NarsicusJun 28, 20181 votes

That is what was stated in the patch notes, but I tried it myself in the practice tool afterword and it is still bugged.

You can tell because with the proc active his 4th shot not only does less damage (on an undamaged training dummy of course to ensure to extra execute damage) and also uses his normal crit animation, not the 4th shot animation.

I haven't tested it more recently, so if they hot fixed it again afterword it might be ok but otherwise its still bugged.