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zhonyas isn´t too overstated????

rudetoughguy··1 votes·827 views

i cant inderstand how a person that goes zhonyas into bashee can one shot pretty much anyone, those arent supossed to be defensive items?? how is fair that banshee turns 450g into 60 MR? every other class is forced to go negatron that builds into garbage or specters what its fucking useless for a 1200g item. i mean ap characters make the game so annoying ; so much resistances so much damage so much utility so much cdr so much everything its like man... i dont even know why to pick anything else, just chose a mage... the best are those that also can go into ad items for some reason, neeko, le blanc, teemo and of course kaisa not a surprice the best adc is the one that turns into a one shot sustain damage tank. ap characters man the only ones allowed to have fun playing this crazy broken game

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Failmageddon1 votes

Let's compare AP and AD. AP for Banshee pays 3000 for 60MR, 75AP, 10% CDR and the shield. AD for Maw pays 3250 for 50MR 50AD, 10% CDR, and a 350dmg shield as well as 20 more AD, 10% lifesteal and 10% spell vamp. OOOOR AD can take Mercurial 3400g, 50 AD 10% lifesteal, 35MR and a click to remove any CC even supression. OOOOR Wits End 2900 for 50% attack speed, 50 MR, 5% movement speed and the Maw passive. Being as Banshee can be popped by a luden's proc or an AoE I'd say AD has the better defensive damaging items, as you have valid options across the board, and can even buy TWO if you want to be tanky and still do all your damage against AP sources. Mercurial and Maw? Your loss in damage is almost non-existent for a lot of resistance.

How about Armor Zhonya costs 2900 for 75 AP, 10% CDR, 45 Armor, and a 120s cooldown golden (shorter if you ingenious hunter). AD GA is 2800 for 45 AD, 40 Armor, and come back to lifeon 300s CD. This one I'd say yes is in the AP favor, though coming back to life can be crazy powerful but raw pound for pound Zhonya is probably better.

rudetoughguy1 votes

i could seem reasonable but it ist nearly as efective as that, how many times do you see zhonyas or banshees baing builded compared to maw and mercurial? theres almost a zhonyas per game and isnt weird seeing two or even 3 in one game. of course there is damage loss and mercurial or maw are not likely a second item you want to build, while ap can pretty much go for anything and it will work, deathcap void staff spellbinder, build order is not even close as restrictive compared to ad characters. most off the times you buy hexdrinker or qss and upgrade them pretty late in the game and wits end is not and option for many character, as zhonyas banshee pretty much goes well into everyone. also yes, my big concern is about zhonyas, why does it gives so many ap? why does it gives cdr? i found that ilarious, the only item i found as nonsense is shojin

Failmageddon1 votes

Really? I see first item Hex Drinker in the mid lane a LOT from AD Midlaners. Also if you're an AD into any form of supression you should build Mercurial.

But you're totally okay with GA? Cause it used to give 0AD, then they felt that AD should be rewarded with more damage for building the item.

rudetoughguy1 votes

thats what i said, you buy hex dinker, but not maw till pretty late on. and i didnt play by the time GA was like that but i say the same, when i would buy GA as first item? never, plus when you buy GA its for the revive pretty much, not for stats. do you feel GA is busted? again is not an item i see everygame

Failmageddon1 votes

You buy Hexdrinker, which does 80% of what Maw does for half the price. Zhonya requires the whole item or it's a 1 off. Most people don't build Zhonya first unless you're into an AD assassin. So it's the same deal as those other items.

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