The New Jungle is Pro Fighter/Tank

Knalxz·Feb 7, 2015·1 votes·820 views

Riot isn't killing jungler diversity the jungle just doesn't support cats instant killing people as much as it did a few patches ago.

If you don't believe me then see for yourself. Take any non assassin jungler in a game and see how you fair against it. Besconn, you don't even need a leash half the time if you build properly.

If you need a few references here are a few good junglers right now, other than Lee Sin and Jarvan that you might not of been aware of.

Just saying. Try one of these champions that saw little to no jungle play last year before you continue to spam there is no jungle diversity, because all of last year was just instant 100-0 assassin junglers.

Atleast you can fight back against all of these champions.

Also yes the true damage of Red Smite does apply for 's and 's Bite, 's E, 's W, 's Passive and 's W.

Edited for some clarity.

14 Comments

AnomalousChimeraFeb 7, 20152 votes

Don't you mean Sejuani's W, not her E?

KnalxzFeb 7, 20151 votes

Why yes I do.

ValyrianBladeFeb 7, 20151 votes

Err hecarim's e is physical damage isn't it. .?

Although he's always been my favorite jungler and I'm finding him better now than ever. So I do agree with your point. Just don't want a 'true damage' rumor going around to make people play him and Riot subsequently nerf him. They're already set on nerfing my mid Main (ahri) so I'd appreciate if they leave my jungle Main alone :p

KnalxzFeb 7, 20151 votes

LoL i mean red smite allows his E to deal true damage.

I assumed that people would know what i'm talking about.

ValyrianBladeFeb 7, 20151 votes

Aah okay. I always go blue smite on hecarim - 20% ms steal for his passive.

Throw in iceborn gauntlet for its slow, sometimes build frozen mallet as a last item for its slow (well mostly for the 700 health), chilling smite for slow and speed, combined hecarim can pretty much stop anyone and get away from any Team.

I prefer to gank over counter jungle though (Even when ult is on cooldown).

KnalxzFeb 8, 20151 votes

Now imagine all that damage but its unblockable.

ValyrianBladeFeb 8, 20151 votes

Isn't red just additional true damage on hit? The actual damage I'm dealing is unchanged, it's just bonus true damage on hit?

I just find Hecarim, despite having 2 ganking spells, has difficulty ganking consistently well without Stalker's. I mean, his e can push them in the entirely wrong direction if they flash at the right time. His R isn't as fast moving as Malphite's and isn't targetted like Vi's or J4's, so if the enemy knows it's coming from range they can normally dodge it (I learned that lesson a while ago, don't initiate a tower dive with an ult because if they dodge it you're dead). So I found the original stalker's really amazing and the 'nerf' to it (50% slow changed to 20% steal) actually was only a tweak for Hecarim because of his passive. Also lately I've been trying split pushing with him a lot more, and sometimes E+R+Ghost just isn't enough to get away and that MS steal comes in real handy (e.g. against a blitzcrank).

KnalxzFeb 8, 20151 votes

It turns the AA dame done into true damage if i recall. What's why WW was so OP and AS Shy.

EndlessSorcererFeb 8, 20151 votes

Actually, Skirmisher's Sabre will apply a true damage DoT on-hit which lasts 3 seconds after each autoattack, to a maximum of 6 seconds total before the smite wears off.

WW used to be strong with Skirmisher's Sabre and Devourer because SS would previously apply true damage on-hit, which worked well with Warwick's ultimate.

ValyrianBladeFeb 9, 20151 votes

Came to say this ;)