Is Spear of Shojin Too Good?

Meme God Shrek·8/19/2019, 4:52:55 PM·2 votes·2,000 views

I really can't say I understand how Spear of Shojin has avoided nerfs for so long, but it has. Now I don't think it's super broken like pre-nerf Ardent Censer or anything like that, but I do think it's currently too strong. Specifically, I think it's too good at everything, and it can turn some champions into absolute monsters. Riven especially, and I suspect Spear of Shojin is a big part of why she's currently top tier. Riven Irelia Fiora Jax

I don't think it needs a major nerf, and I think on those champs and champs like them it's meant to synergize well, but I think it works too well on a lot of champions, and I think its current state is a big part of why Riven is top tier. The main reason being its CDR.

Compare SoS to item 3071, which for a long time has been the quintissential all-rounder item for top laners. Both of them give 20% CDR, but then Spear of Shojin also gives a whole 50% attack speed upon ulting, and your basic attacks after that reduce your non-ultimate cooldowns. Correct me if I'm wrong, but this means it effectively grants the most CDR of any item in the game when its passive is meant to synergize with basic attack champions.

Therefore, I suggest a simple but important nerf, that being reduce its CDR to 15 or 10%. As compensation its gold cost could be reduced a bit, maybe by 50 or 100, but I do think this would put the item in a more balanced place. I should make it clear I didn't make this post because I got stomped by someone using it or something dumb like that, I play both Irelia and Fiora, I really just think it's too good at the moment.

19 Comments

Troll Slaiyer8/19/2019, 6:12:21 PM5 votes

a passive like that should not exist in this game. delete it

Jesi Oni8/19/2019, 5:02:19 PM3 votes

But when you will build it anyway? I have seen few jax players~ mostly they build triforce and then lifesteal. Soo... Third item? My games are decided at this point most of the time 🤣

Soul Dealer8/19/2019, 4:59:07 PM2 votes

The problem is some champions (Jax is a big one ) rely so much on the item now that if you nerf is you would still have to buff Jax in some way to compensate.

Sinister Anubis8/19/2019, 5:13:58 PM1 votes

I dont see an issue with it. Its not an item you buy every game it gives a lot of dmg and the passive is good but on the other hand its not a core item and by purchasing it you sacrafice other items that could be much better for a champion over all. Like Take jax for example he needs his triforce and Gage to buy spear would leave him to be less tanky. You buy Spear to try and snowball if you can't snowball spear is worthless.

Ragnaveil8/20/2019, 5:58:52 PM1 votes

Its currently second item on Jax, so yes, its actually too good.