Even Bronze against Diamond would win these matchups

spombjop·Jul 1, 2016·1 votes·1,419 views

Caitlyn vs Vayne Katarina vs Akali Darius vs Nasus Mordekaiser vs Fizz Orianna vs any assassin

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TheLittlestLuluJul 1, 20165 votes

Someone who is legitimately bronze is not going to win against someone who is legitimately diamond no matter what the matchup is.

spombjopJul 1, 20161 votes

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Someone who is legitimately bronze is not going to win against someone who is legitimately diamond no matter what the matchup is.

If matchup is one of these he will. Prove me wrong.

HyperiönJul 1, 20162 votes

Yeah, Diamond will stomp on them no matter what. Look up the video, 3 korean challengers vs 5 golds. The 3 Challengers shit on them. Doesnt matter the champions, they have better mechanics, shot calling, don't make as many stupid mistakes. And they know how to actually play properly, so yeah, I will vote on the diamonds any day of the week.

spombjopJul 1, 20161 votes

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Yeah, Diamond will stomp on them no matter what. Look up the video, 3 korean challengers vs 5 golds. The 3 Challengers shit on them. Doesnt matter the champions, they have better mechanics, shot calling, don't make as many stupid mistakes. And they know how to actually play properly, so yeah, I will vote on the diamonds any day of the week.

yeah i watched that. golds used bad champions, challenger used ahri, she can 1v5

Slack KingJul 1, 20162 votes

Diamond Fizz wins, he will call for jungle gank to the overextending bronze morde

leagueofAtrainJul 1, 20162 votes

No one wins in league.

IceemberJul 1, 20162 votes

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=iSlXuq-Breo

If a Diamond/Master tier Akali can beat a Katarina of the same Tier I think they can beat a bronzie.

spombjopJul 1, 20161 votes

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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=iSlXuq-Breo

If a Diamond/Master tier Akali can beat a Katarina of the same Tier I think they can beat a bronzie.

akali can't beat katarina period.

rtbf221651412Jul 2, 20161 votes

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akali can't beat katarina period.

I can't tell if trolling or serious.

IceemberJul 2, 20161 votes

Honestly I'm not even sure at this point. I mean the video he quoted from me proves him wrong. So...

Swiftstrike4Jul 1, 20162 votes

You must be playing against some shit Nasus players if they can't beat a Darius. The matchup is SO common that a Nasus main HAS to learn how to play against it in order to improve.

Darius into Nasus is more common than the classic Teemo counter pick, because teemo simply drops-off too hard and stinks in team fights.

I main Nasus and the only match-up I really have issues with are good Pantheon players. The players that main him simply know how to have their passive up for dives and full engages, exert pressure in other lanes through their global ult, and will kill me typically once in early laning. Vladimir also give me issues but that is because he also can dive and drop aggro easily.

Darius into Nasus is a very common matchup, to get good with Nasus you have to be able to play against a Darius. Nasus can eventually out sustain Darius and his bleeds. Then over time he can simply out damage him as well. I will say Darius is more effective at team fights than Nasus by a pretty large margin, but in terms of laning a mediocre Darius player will NOT beat a seasoned Nasus.

spombjopJul 1, 20161 votes

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You must be playing against some shit Nasus players if they can't beat a Darius. The matchup is SO common that a Nasus main HAS to learn how to play against it in order to improve.

Darius into Nasus is more common than the classic counter pick, because teemo simply drops-off too hard and stinks in team fights.

I main and the only match-up I really have issues with are good players. The players that main him simply know how to have their passive up for dives and full engages, exert pressure in other lanes through their global ult, and will kill me typically once in early laning. Vladimir also give me issues but that is because he also can dive and drop aggro easily.

Darius into Nasus is a very common matchup, to get good with Nasus you have to be able to play against a Darius. Nasus can eventually out sustain Darius and his bleeds. Then over time he can simply out damage him as well. I will say Darius is more effective at team fights than Nasus by a pretty large margin, but in terms of laning a mediocre Darius player will NOT beat a seasoned Nasus.

nasus needs like 300 stacks and 3 items to fight darius darius can only build black cleaver and nasus can rush frozen heart and darius will still win

Swiftstrike4Jul 2, 20162 votes

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nasus needs like 300 stacks and 3 items to fight darius darius can only build black cleaver and nasus can rush frozen heart and darius will still win

No. A good Nasus needs usually only around 200 stacks item 3057 , item 3067 , and item 3024 to kill Darius. Maybe a wardens mail instead of Glacial depending. He doesn't need 3 items at all. He just needs damage, stacks, some health, and light armor. I have done the matchup enough times to know when I can kill Darius. Really you just have to whittle him down over the duration of laning and not keep fighting him when he tries to all in.

spombjopJul 2, 20161 votes

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No. A good Nasus needs usually only around 200 stacks , , and to kill Darius. Maybe a wardens mail instead of Glacial depending. He doesn't need 3 items at all. He just needs damage, stacks, some health, and light armor. I have done the matchup enough times to know when I can kill Darius. Really you just have to whittle him down over the duration of laning and not keep fighting him when he tries to all in.

Lol this is a lie, nasus can't kill darius even if he has sheen and frozen heart. darius just needs BC

Swiftstrike4Jul 2, 20162 votes

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Lol this is a lie, nasus can't kill darius even if he has sheen and frozen heart. darius just needs BC

It is whatever if you don't believe me. You are clearly unfamiliar with the match-up. I play against it all the time.

Ravenous HowlsJul 5, 20162 votes

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No. A good Nasus needs usually only around 200 stacks , , and to kill Darius. Maybe a wardens mail instead of Glacial depending. He doesn't need 3 items at all. He just needs damage, stacks, some health, and light armor. I have done the matchup enough times to know when I can kill Darius. Really you just have to whittle him down over the duration of laning and not keep fighting him when he tries to all in.

Really even less if Darius is itemizing for damage first and you take Penetration runes, you can do a lot of damage to him with just a sheen and FH. But your numbers are still solid and safer to engage with overall.

This poster clearly doesn't understand any of these match ups. If you look at many of his other posts this isn't the only one that is woefully lacking any meaningful insight, specifics or plain old facts...

Ravenous HowlsJul 5, 20162 votes

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nasus needs like 300 stacks and 3 items to fight darius darius can only build black cleaver and nasus can rush frozen heart and darius will still win

Ummm no. He really doesn't. I need IBG or FH with Sheen and I will kill Darius at 120 stacks. You clearly lack understanding of these match ups... Here's a link where I crushed a Darius in lane and was more relevant in every team fight than him. Tied for 2nd most kills on my team, least amount of deaths and the most assists. Also check the number of objectives I secured. The only times he could kill me was with significant intervention on his team's behalf.

http://matchhistory.na.leagueoflegends.com/en/#match-details/NA1/2232728211/46929442?tab=overview

BeuhlakorJul 1, 20161 votes

After a couple of levels (the first ones are very painful I admit) Darius is an easy MU for Nasus.

Infinite SaughtJul 1, 20161 votes

Katarina doesn't win versus Akali post-6.

spombjopJul 1, 20161 votes

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Katarina doesn't win versus Akali post-6.

press R when Akali jumps on you and uses shroud, shroud won't save her, only flash will

IceemberJul 2, 20162 votes

That's not how you play the match up as Akali at all. You go for the usual post 6 combo with all stacks ready. Press R proc the Q mark you were waiting on. E really quick and since there is a minion wave behind you R to that when she presses R. Free Katarina ult outta the way you now turn on her with Q R AA E follow up with ignite if needed.

iisabrinaJul 1, 20161 votes

Vayne can beat cait easy 1 on 1 if she gets merculais.

Katarina sort of, can beat akali, but if akali goes tank katarina stands no chance since her burst max's out at like 2300 ?

Nasus can beat darius easy if he stacks tons of health. Infact as nasus Ive lost to darius once. I honestly hate darius and IVe beat darius with panth, Nasus, Teemo, few garen games not usually tho.

Idk about the two mid laners

Orianna def not, shes only good in laning phase then sucks balls

spombjopJul 1, 20161 votes

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Vayne can beat cait easy 1 on 1 if she gets merculais.

cait has range and traps + she can cancel trap animation, that completly counters vayne

Katarina sort of, can beat akali, but if akali goes tank katarina stands no chance since her burst max's out at like 2300 ?

tank akali has no damage anyways and if kat is ahead tank items won't help much

Nasus can beat darius easy if he stacks tons of health. Infact as nasus Ive lost to darius once. I honestly hate darius and IVe beat darius with panth, Nasus, Teemo, few garen games not usually tho.

darius outscales nasus

Slack KingJul 1, 20161 votes

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cait has range and traps + she can cancel trap animation, that completly counters vayne

tank akali has no damage anyways and if kat is ahead tank items won't help much

darius outscales nasus

Almost no one outscales nasus, Late game nasus > Late game darius

spombjopJul 1, 20161 votes

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Almost no one outscales nasus, Late game nasus > Late game darius

fiora, yi, darius, they all outscale nasus btw and vlad outscales him because of insane heal

Slack KingJul 1, 20161 votes

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fiora, yi, darius, they all outscale nasus btw and vlad outscales him because of insane heal

Nasus never stops scaling, ever

BeuhlakorJul 1, 20161 votes

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fiora, yi, darius, they all outscale nasus btw and vlad outscales him because of insane heal

Fiora is shit against Nasus until she reaches the very lategame.

iisabrinaJul 1, 20161 votes

vlad stands no chance against nasus at all.

Nasus will outscale everyone if he farms hard enough

spombjopJul 1, 20161 votes

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vlad stands no chance against nasus at all.

Nasus will outscale everyone if he farms hard enough

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mbc6KyXO8-c vlad is broken dude.

iisabrinaJul 1, 20161 votes

Question, I actually dont know this, how do you cancer your trap animation. Cait wins early game, vayne wins late game, she can stun cait and kill her in a few seconds,

Tank akali with an ap item or 2 does A TON of damage. Again kat will always lose to a full built tank late game. 1 on 1

Darius doesnt outscale nasus late game. and frankly Nasus can still farm under turret and poke darius down to smitherines by baiting out his Q and his E.

What youre focusing on here is lane counters. Not game play. Lane countering is good because yes if you end early they cant do anything, but if u dont, then yes, each of these matchups, the tide turns.

BeuhlakorJul 1, 20161 votes

Nasus rapes Darius super hard in lategame.

You want an excellent counter who is also a no-brainer to Nasus ?

Pick Trundle and rush an Iceborn Gauntlet.

Nasus can't even farm against that shit.

Slack KingJul 1, 20161 votes

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Nasus rapes Darius super hard in lategame.

You want an excellent counter who is also a no-brainer to Nasus ?

Pick Trundle and rush an Iceborn Gauntlet.

Nasus can't even farm against that shit.

Trundle shits on my Mordekaiser at around 25 mins unfed

iisabrinaJul 1, 20161 votes

Theoretically if Nasus farms enough he counters everyone, except a veigar who farms even more than him.

ActivatingEMPJul 1, 20161 votes

I was going to say...

spombjopJul 1, 20161 votes

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shits on my at around 25 mins unfed

Olaf and Trundle shit on everyone after 6

TyroneWatermelonJul 1, 20161 votes

Cait,the braindead low skill requirement adc,wins most matchups already.

spombjopJul 1, 20161 votes

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Cait,the braindead low skill requirement adc,wins most matchups already.

agreed Akali

Ravenous HowlsJul 1, 20161 votes

This list is very sparse on specific facts or references to try and prove your point. While these match ups might be difficult in the beginning with proper knowledge and positioning none of these supposed counters are counters.

These are all late game scaling champions who shine towards the end game and will destroy these match ups provided they know how to control the wave and position. I'd dare any bronze to face my Nasus with Darius. Unless they are diamond level smurf I will absolutely dominate the lane and team fights against them.

The only one I am somewhat in agreement on is Mord. He can be deceptively tanky and extremely destructive in the right hands but this is highly dependent on if he can get going and a good Fizz would be hell for Mord to make it out of lane phase with decent gold.