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Swain's ult sucks for being his only "survival" tool.

SuperNova0079·8/26/2018, 11:19:54 PM·3 votes·1,127 views

Swain's ult sucks. No mater what items you get, Or how you use your abilities, you will die every time you use this ult. It is not threatening at all. Does grossly low damage and healing and it just motivates the enemy mid laner i am against to dive on to me and prove that my ult sucks. I die miserably every time I ult. Soul fragments need a passive effect in addition to the damage from ult. Because the damage from 5 soul fragments on an ult is less than ALL mages except Zyra who is more of a support but can still be a mage.

Swain has to do extra things just to do a little less damage then the average mage ability. Death's hand needs to be far more rewarding to hit a player with all five bolts. I cannot tell the difference between getting hit with 5 bolts or getting hit with xerath's Q which does more damage and is far safer to use. The overtime healing and damage should also increase with more soul fragments because it should be more rewarding to collect those things and might actually force enemies to get better at dodging to deny him soul fragments. It would also be cool If Q did more damage the more soul fragments you had stored at that time. Not to much though Just enough to match the work that it takes to get all 5 lightning bolts into someones face in addition to collecting those soul fragments.

13 Comments

Over Haul8/26/2018, 11:28:07 PM1 votes

I mean, I've been playing swain to pretty great success recently, maybe your just having some bad match ups

CauseSCIENCE8/26/2018, 11:39:39 PM1 votes

Swain's q does an insane amount of damage at point blank and doesn't need any buffs. I find his ult very useful, meaning I can easily 1v2 the enemy jungler and midlane when they come for a gank. It has way too much regen and the bonus damage from demonflare is incredibly useful in teamfights.

5050BS8/26/2018, 11:55:22 PM1 votes

What they should have done with Swain is this.

Lower all of swains abilities damage by 10%

P: Each Soul Swain collects makes him stronger. Swain gains 5% more damage and 5% more healing on all his abilities for each soul collected.

Q: +100 units range, Killing a target restores 5% mana, hitting a champion restores 1% per bolt hit. Bolts Pierce through targets they kill and adds 10% more damage for each target killed.

W:Targets slowed by W take 8% more damage from Swain. Lower its damage by 10%

E: +150 units range, Pressing E again will bring the claw back early.

R: So should heal for 75 + .32 AP on first target and 37.5 + .08 AP on the next two targets (this is the same overall as live but makes 1v1 more balanced) Also the spell should be counted as a single target for each target.

Ghazter8/27/2018, 3:02:43 AM1 votes

I think you just don't know how to play him. He gets ridiculously tanky to the point where if you need to use your ult, you're being 4v1'd. Maybe try using your ult offensively and getting zhonyas (which you should aready have). Swain R+Zhonya's is still one of the most disgusting things I see from a TANK MIDLANE MAGE.

Over Haul8/28/2018, 1:05:46 AM1 votes

Take domination and sorcery with with electrocute, cheap shot, eyeball collection, ultimate hunter and then sorcery with celerity and scorch and once you reach level 3 assuming you and the enemy are both the same level you'll burst down nearly any one if you catch them with e then q and ignite