relic shield hit and miss?

CHEESYLEEKS·May 25, 2016·2 votes·901 views

so i was playing thresh with and i could not get cannon or melee minions even if they were a 1 hit although it would work on caster minions, yet ive had it working perfectly before and ive had this happen on other champions, is this a known buggy item?

8 Comments

SarutobiMay 25, 20162 votes

Relic shield only works on melee champions. Thresh is considered Ranged so relic shield won't work on his auto attack. When you have relic shield on thresh you use his Flay skill.

SKT T1 LaFlameMay 25, 20161 votes

This is wrong. Last hitting in any manner procs it even if you're ranged, it's just that only melees can get the execute portion.

I've used Relic every Thresh game I've ever played and it worked fine with my autos. Don't spread misinformation just for the sake of doing it.

GaleWinUnleashedMay 25, 20162 votes

Technically he's not wrong. He didn't mention anything about the gold proc as a whole, and what he said applies perfectly to just the execute damage.

SKT T1 LaFlameMay 25, 20161 votes

Thresh is considered Ranged so relic shield won't work on his auto attack

Ok.

CHEESYLEEKSMay 25, 20161 votes

so why not have it disabled for range champs like item 3074 item 3748 .... seems a bit silly if you ask me.

also why is thresh ranged, also seems a bit silly.

Sneakyy XDMay 25, 20161 votes

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so why not have it disabled for range champs like .... seems a bit silly if you ask me.

also why is thresh ranged, also seems a bit silly.

Because ranged champions can still proc the more relevant passive

His range is the same as Morgana's and higher than Urgot's. Do you consider those two champions melee?

CHEESYLEEKSMay 26, 20161 votes

yes

V00May 25, 20161 votes

I really wish they would change this as its pretty much the sole reason I don't play a lot more of Thresh. I mean I understand that the execute proc's on melee attacks only and that Thresh has more range on his AA's than most melees do, but that doesn't really make him a ranged champ imo. There's no projectile leaving him and flying towards someone and at the end of his attack his weapon is still in his hands. You wouldn't call someone with a long spear "ranged" just because they can poke someone from farther away than if they had a sword instead would you? Most games treat whips/chain weapons as melee weapons, and Thresh should fall into that imo.

Not to mention that his flay passive is designed in such a way to give you favorable trades by boosting the damage on your autos. Having to constantly blow that bonus damage on killing minions seems counter-intuitive to how his kit was intended to work. It's only gotten worse since the last change to relic shield (gives charges more often than before). And god forbid you try to blow a charge and fail causing an ADC to miss a creep. It's such a dumb source of toxicity in the game that could so easily be avoided.

I pull Thresh out in games every so often when the urge strikes, and every time I do I get frustrated by the fact that it feels like there is no good starting gold item for him (relic doesn't fit for reasons already mentioned, and the others don't give him the durability/sustain i feel he needs). The result ends up being that he goes back onto the inactive champs roster after that one game. I've debated just starting Doran's Shield on him and playing hella agro early game, but it feels like a gamble and I always talk myself out of it.