I hate having to pick mid, support, or top before the other person, because getting counterpicked is tough. If I'm picking blind I usually just pick something that can farm well or whatever support the adc asks for. But I would love to hear what some of y'all think are safe blind picks for ranked. If it makes a difference I'm in silver.
Friendly Ram29 votesjungle:
top:
both are quite blind.
It Hertz When IP3 votes
Hello I am Bird2 votesew what is this 2012
CrazFight 18 votesSomeone downvoted this post when someone was asking for help some people smh
Top: 
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Wildebeast186 votesAll the comments have been really helpful though! 😀 Those make sense, I definitely hate going against Ori, she seems to kind of have it all.
DeathBurst2 votesThresh too complicated for a Blind Pick on a role you don't know well. Agreed with the others, though.
Wildebeast181 votesWhen I try to learn thresh what should i keep in mind?
50000000000000001 votesLearning the matchups is pretty important, since Thresh can make use of both coin and relic shield well. Coin gives him more opportunity to hook without getting punished by mana cost and strong active/quest passive effect, while relic shield gives more tankiness and an active shield.
Try to pick up souls safely. Soul collection is important, so try to maximize your soul gains. This also means not dying while trying to get more souls, since death means less time alive to collect more souls.
Try putting 3 points into E then maxing Q. Q provides a ton of CC with 40% CDR, because once you land one, you get 3 seconds of cooldown refunded. E is strong in laning phase due to low cooldown and more damage from the passive portion. You can also interrupt dashes with your Q and E.
W has a short time before the lantern actually lands, so drop it a little bit ahead of the ally.
Sire Hippington1 votesHe's not a melee, so try to use your ranged AAs for harras, but** keep in mind that his base stats are not that of a melee either, he dies rather fast especially without defensive runes/masteries/items**. Do never expec to be as tanky as an actuall tank support like alistar or braum. When i play against him, i usually focus him in lane as he lacks defensive mobillity and is not really more tanky than his adc.
Also, either learn to cs or go coin, nothing is worse as adc than haveing a thresh failing his CS with relic. Seeing your siege minion die to minions cause your thresh failed to last hit it properly is very tilting.
It Hertz When IP2 votesEver since the gold item reworks, I'd say just go Coin, period. Thresh has to enter the minion area to collect souls anyway.
Paquay1 votesOne tip that took me too long to learn: sometimes the threat of a hook is more powerful than the hook itself.
Jbels6 votesTop lane: Galio, Sion, pretty much any tank that will still be useful without having perfect farm/ a bad KDA Mid Lane: Pretty much any control mage Support: Janna, Nami, Thresh, pretty much any enchanter/support with a long range. NEVER blindpick champions like Leona unless you are a rank 7 one-trick (skill trumps counterpicks in a decent amount of situations). You could counterpick a Sona with Leona because Leona dicks Sona lanes so hard the Sonas might as well be free gold sacks floating through the air for the ADC
Wildebeast181 votesThat would be a nice pocket pick for sona, why do you think she wins so hard? Wouldn't sona's range and poke hurt Leona?
Jbels4 votesThat would be a nice pocket pick for sona, why do you think she wins so hard? Wouldn't sona's range and poke hurt Leona?
Sona is super squishy early on, and Leona is NOT. At level 3, Leona can E onto Sona every opprotunity she gets, and her passive gives her ADC so much bonus damage in the early game that even if Sona heals and shields during the trade, she's going to feel it, and she's going to have to flash or die. Rinse and repeat
AWildAPKalista2 votesLeona has always been a hard Sona counter, even when Sona used to be a playable character pre-patch 4.13. As a matter-of-fact, Sona is the shortest-range, least damage-threatening "support" in the game atm. Her Q at 700 range puts her in danger of most champions, especially Leona's E at 875 range. Actually, Sona's Q only prioritizes champions over minions when she's within 550 range of them, so at that distance she's vulnerable to counter-harass or engage by literally every ADC and support in the game.
As for Sona's "poke," she factually has the worst damage numbers of any support in the game. She only has ONE damage spell(a rarity of supports) and at 40 damage, it has a lower base than any other support in the game. Her base AD is one of the worst and her full "burst" combo is truthfully outraded by 2 basic attacks from any ADC, except maybe MF. Leona is a tank, but Sona's damage is ignorable even for a squishy; if you have **ANY **mr runes, Sona is an afterthought at every point during a game.
Wildebeast181 votesHuh that makes sense, thanks for the clear explanation.
Miku Hime sama2 votesTo be fair though, Sona has just been a generic free sack of gold ever since she was gutted in patch 4.13, regardless of who you pick into her. Sona has ZERO winning lanes.
oSEXYPLATYPUSo6 votesTOP:
JNG:
MID:
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DeathBurst1 votesDraven is too mechanically intensive for a Blind Pick on a role you don't know well. Agreed with the others, though.
EDIT: ah, no, I disagree with Maokai Top. He's not good anymore in solo lane since his rework, IMHO.
oSEXYPLATYPUSo3 votesLMAO MAOKAI NOT GOOD TOP ?
Maokai Top has a win rate 53.25% for Platinum+ players whilst the very best Maokai's are earning a win rate of 60.39% with the average rank of these top players being in Diamond IV.
LoLalytics ranks Maokai at 2 amongst Top champions earning a tier grade of Challenger.
This ranking takes into account the win rate of Platinum+ players, the pick/ban influence of Maokai, the win rate and average rank of the best Maokai players.
DeathBurst2 votesWell, I stand corrected. I'm really surprised, I can't manage to do anything in Solo lane since the rework, but apparently it's just an issue with me... I agree that he's a great Jungler and a decent Support when you have to Blind pick, but I really can't find success in Solo lane.
oSEXYPLATYPUSo1 votesi have main maokai for 3 seasons even in bad match ups i can hold my own and still be useful for team.
he isnt as strong early damage wise in lane as prior to rework... you have to play a lil more passive and farm... he scales really well and the gold income and experience in a solo lane makes him a monster. he will draw alot of attention and try to be camped and shut out early.
he has massive sustain.
top lane start Q , W, E max Q
depending on the match up
or 
or 
starts
12-0-18 set up and runes attack speed reds , armor quints, hp seals and mr blues
basically build 
in lane n out sustain and bully any top laner for the most part
DeathBurst2 votesThanks for the tips.
AS Reds, though? Why?! I would have gone with either Armor Reds or Magic Pen Reds.
oSEXYPLATYPUSo1 votesyou are melee you auto attack to cs using Q when you can clean up waves and disengage /poke enemy
the more as you have the cleaner your auto attack animation is...
same for jungle maokai
you really dont need magic pen reds cuz you arent building AP you have good base damages
one of my fav builds on him is
i have had games with 60k damage to champs, 75k and 80k
AwesomeGuyDj1 votesI use to fucking love IBG on maokai. Wave clear, EVEN MORE STICK, your q is on such a low cooldown you can use it to proc IBG on towers for faster dmg. etc. I dropped it recently though in favor of a super tank build tho with righteous g.
oSEXYPLATYPUSo2 votesi still get it but i dont rush it in most lanes...
i like starting i know they arent complete items but with a doran ring start you have sustain, mana, hp, aoe damage /wave clear and armor and grevious wounds/magic damage for any melee champ or auto attack champ
then you can build into 
and if need be i go IBG
DeathBurst3 votesyou really dont need magic pen reds cuz you arent building AP you have good base damages
Well, precisely? Magic Pen amplify all your damage, including base damage, whereas AP only buffs your ratios?
And, "don't build AP", with RoA + Liandry in your build? x) I call that an healthy amount of AP, if you ask me...
Also, I see you mentioned Abyssal in that other comment below, so how/when do you decide between RoA versus Abyssal? Can you really go RoA after building Bami and Bramblevest?
Also also, I really don't like Sunfire since they nerfed the damage against champs. Doesn't Maokai get enough waveclear in his kit to be able to skip Sunfire entirely?
oSEXYPLATYPUSo1 votesyou arent trying to do alot of damage as maokai beign a tank... ROA is a good idea but due to the fast pace meta its harder to make effective so if im ahead then i feel i can make it worth , if im even or behind or facing magic damage then MASK cuz it basically makes you do more magic damage including magic damage from sunfire and the magic damage from thronmail , and if you have an AP mid it helps their damage to.
so having attack speed reds over magic pen reds http://diamond.lolalytics.com/champion/Maokai/Top/
if you look at runes AS reds have a 53.91% win rate with a 50.82% pick rate MP reds have a 52.24% win rate with a 21.70% pick rate win rates are close, but AS REDS are higher and picked 60% more of the time. clearly the best way to go. (this is based on diamond elo)
now that build from above with landry's and roa is the build i used prior to rework. i still have worked it in here n there its just not ideal with the current meta. i perfer in top lane to play him as a ap bruiser instead of pure tank and i play really aggressive with the build
but if you look at the items that are built on him now
as a 1st item on him has a 53.31% win rate and a 41.49% pick rate which is highest
and also having as reds after you used your CC which is all your abilities you have no other way to do damage but auto attacks, it really increases your dps if you auto. he has one of the higher base AD in the game so being able to get more attack per second you can do a fair amount of damage with autos
oSEXYPLATYPUSo1 voteshttp://imgur.com/XKRlnUC this is a game with the roa build where i did 80K damage to champs http://imgur.com/16sRePs another roa build http://imgur.com/DMoTeC7 roa build http://imgur.com/OrBOkDg roa http://imgur.com/A0Ay8Li some mask sunfire top build games with some support games
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I would never in a million years say Draven is a go to pick for ADC. He is literally the hardest ADC to play and even with how retarded he is with Deaths Dance, if you suck at him which unless you focus on Draven, most will suck on him, he will just feed hard. Lucian is honestly no different, he isn't as hard to play but he isn't a simple auto attacker and if you mess up his spellweaving he is garbage.
I would honestly say
Top or 
Jng 
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Mid
ADC
Sup or 
Maokai I feel is supreme in top lane since he doesn't care about laning phase and an utter nightmare lategame. It doesn't matter if he loses to a Darius or Fiora or Riven. He will be a monster in teamfights and it doesn't matter if that Riven is 7/0, Maokai will be the reason she dies nonstop since whoever Maokai chooses to go on is basically screwed no matter how fed unless their team all focus him. Even something extremely like a 24/2 full build Riven would be in severe danger if a 0/7 lategame Maokai is choosing her as the person he will fk.
Darius is a massive lane bully and if he doesn't somehow get fed during laning, he can still get fed in teamfights since it doesn't take much for him to get a random double-penta and go ham from it. Also extremely easy to play with mainly being auto based with a low cd Q that isn't really hard to aim that also heals you.
Nunu and Ivern basically do the same jobs, but slightly different. They both basically become another support. But both go about it differently. Nunu has hands down the best objective control in the game and it doesn't matter if he is weak or not. He always has 2 smites and he is someone that is more than worth killing himself to steal a dragon or baron since killing him doesn't really gain much to the enemy, while Nunu's team can gain a lot. Also during a teamfight his ult can be gamechanging. Ivern makes the enemy Jng life hell while also being a pain in the ass for existing due to his kit of low cd shields, root+dash, another body with his ult, blocking vision. Ivern if ignored can easily win a teamfight for his team due to the sheer amount of disruption and protection he offers.
Orianna is hands down the easymode mid laner. She can play into everything and has an answer to everything. She can easily farm if its a farm lane, she can easily poke since the enemy has 2 things to keep track off, Ori herself and her ball. She can decent survivability with a shield and she often has 
as well so even burst champs have a hard time blowing her up. And best part is she isn't hard to play at all. Actually I lied, her best part is even if she does nothing or even feeds in laning phase, her ult is such a powerful tool that even a 0/9 Orianna is a priority target since her ult can single handedly win any teamfight she is in.
Caitlyn has the longest range and the safest kit in the game. No gimmicks like Draven or Xayah where they are only good if they catch their axes or having to pull the feathers through the enemy, she is a straight up auto attacker. She has an escape with her net which also can be used offensively if you are confident, and you can control where the enemy goes with your traps which also can be used offensively if pleased.
I am not going to bother explaining Janna or Thresh since I am sure everyone at this point that has played more than like 50 games of LoL know why they are easily the best supports. But to simplify it, Thresh has a get out of jail free card for an ally with his latern, he has some of the best lockdown in the game, and is tanky to boot, and also his damage for a support isn't nothing to scoff at. Janna has a heal that displaces enemies, a very low CD very powerful shield that also gives AD, a very strong slow, and a low CD long range knock up.
Pika3105 votes Has no "counters" per-say, only EVEN matchups at worst.
Playable into anybody short of Morgana.
That guy.
Well-rounded, tends to do well against any lane: ranged, melee, aggro, passive, whatever.
I don't jungle, figure that one out from somebody else.
Wildebeast181 votesI hadn't thought of Morgana being good against Zyra but that definitely makes sense. I used to play a lot of Morhana support but it seemed like she kinda fell out of the meta pretty hard.
Mig891 votesMorgan's is not good into zyra. As a zyra main it's an easy lane. You can block her q easy because it's slow with your plants Her spell shield will eat a couple plant attacks and that's about it. She either has to save the shield for the e and eat a ton of poke or use the shield which is easily popped and the plants do their job anyway
darkmatchwaldo1 votes
is my go to blind jungler, you create an immense amount of map pressure once you're farmed up. You can 1v1 just about anyone if you build correctly. The only way to stop your split push is by sending 2+ champions. Her buff this patch only made her better, the AD ratio on your E is pretty damn good
used to be my other blind pick but i have been putting in a lot of practice on 
and he seems to be a better blind pick. He has some of the best base stats in the game and his early mobility is rivaled only by . However his E is way better than and you scale better into the mid game once you change forms.
FiddlesOnTheRoof4 votesTop- 
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Wildebeast182 votesI love xerath, but isn't he risky?
FiddlesOnTheRoof5 votesShould be able to farm safely- even into assassins. If you need to, rush Banshee's veil to counter fizz ult. Take exhaust to counter zed/talon all in, and you should be able to farm safely all game
TheMoralSupport11 votes lol
FiddlesOnTheRoof2 votes? Just because he's not in a great spot doesn't mean he has counters. If you play him right, you shouldn't really die.
maliohammad1 votesazir have a hard kit for someone who don't main him / play that role a lot
Hyrum Graff1 votesJinx is a good blind pick in lane, but dangerous to pick if the other team's mid/top/jg have not picked yet, as many divers/assassins wreck her.
DrCyanide3 votesIf you need a Mid and Support, Morgana or Annie might be good to have. They're flex picks capable of doing both positions, so the enemy might not know they're counter picking you particularly.
I one trick Xerath in Ranked, playing him enough that I don't mind when I'm first pick. Yes, they'll typically pick an assassin against me, but I can usually do ok.
The Leo Cat3 votesJung: 
It Hertz When IP2 votes ADC: Can handle a wide variety of opponents.
Support: Works with nearly every ADC, can engage and peel effectively on the fly.
Jungle: support jungler means that you're mostly enabling teammates. All you have to do is shield and land Q when ganking, and post-4(?) make sure you're giving blue and red buffs out to whoever needs them.
Mid: You can farm at a distance pretty safely, just be sure to ward.
Top: Keep bushes seeded with saplings and rush RoA.
maliohammad2 votestop : shen , you just farm up , then try to help your team win top2: galio , very safe tank , but in top , your ult won't be as useful . mid : galio , very safe , and can do well vs most ap matchups , and even ad matchups , since he is a tank with good wave clear , and can help bot and top with his ult . mid :vladimir , he have a very safe kit when you learn him well , and he do well vs assassins adc :varus , have a good poke and a good range , with a good cc ult . support :taric , very safe when learned , and high rewarding . support : karma , very good if you have a strong poke adc , aka : cait , varus , jhin , mf jungle : cho gath , he is so broken , and even if you do bad , you are still cho gath , and will one shot people (and go tank instead of ap !)
Vigilente2 votes
Now Time to sit back and watch the upvotes
ChaosThief1 votesActually, most melee champions have the tools to deal with yasuo, in fact some straight up can nuke him if he makes a slight mistake.
Yasuo isn't brainless, regardless of what people want you to think.
Vigilente2 votesOf course he is not brain less. I was just joking, as a yasuo main, i agree with you.
ChaosThief1 votesJoke flew over my head, my bad.
Mr Killalot2 votesTop: Can't help you there, I never play it.
Jungle: 
Vi is a pretty safe pick imo. She is strong at all points of the game, has good clear, good duelists, versatile kits and build paths. Shes can counter jungle well and can be hard to killl 1v1. Zac is super tanky, can do damage if you build for it, has cc for days and can escape well if you're getting coutner-jungled.
Mid: 
Honestly, I dont think anyone hard-counters these four champions. At the very least, you can afk farm lane and sit under tower. They go in order from most safe to least safe. Ahri is pretty easy to pick up, but the other three are pretty difficult.
ADC: 
Cait is probably the safest adc. She's hella strong in lane, has great range, an escape, and has zoning with her traps. Trist has a free escape, and has scaling on her aa range so she gets even safer as the game progresses. Ez is super safe, but is highly mechanically challanging and requires a ton of practice to be even decent with.
Support: Your adc has to literally int to die if your playing janna right. Shes the queen of a farm it out lane. Thresh is pretty good too, with enough tools to deal with any situation.
