I have to ask, why do people pick nidalee jg?

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Especially in lower elos where people dont know dirt about strategy or objectives, the usual picks for jg are Jax, Sejuani, lee sin, Master yi, zin zhao, nocturne, reksai.

I cant think in any of these situations of nidalee having a chance.

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Tsugaga3 votes

Maybe because some players like to have fun and don't have time to learn 100+ champions, so they only play their few favorite champs. If a player wants to play Nid and has fun playing Nid then they'll play Nid. Leave them alone and pick your own champ.

fullbacks631 votes

I didnt ask for your salty response to my question. I am asking a serious question and trying to understand how nidalee jungle can make a difference. If you are so butthurt about it go ask your mommy for some booby milk

Tsugaga4 votes

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I didnt ask for your salty response to my question. I am asking a serious question and trying to understand how nidalee jungle can make a difference. If you are so butthurt about it go ask your mommy for some booby milk

Regardless if you like my response or not, I in no way bashed you, so you bashing I is inappropriate and wrong. You say you didn't ask for a salty response, but did you ask for a sweet response? No, you didn't, all you did was ask a question and I gave my honest answer. Your question didn't seem serious because you stated that lower MMR players "don't know dirt about strategy or objectives" and stated that you can't think of Nid having a chance in any of those situations, which gives the impression that all you care about is strategy and winning and not whether or not the people on your team are actually having fun. Yes, winning is nice and strategy is good, but players will play their selected champ because that's the champ they want to play for whatever reason, simple as that.

"I am asking a serious question and trying to understand how nidalee jungle can make a difference."

You didn't ask that at all.

fullbacks631 votes

I asked why would someone even pick nidalee jg, I dont see her having a chance. thats pretty much the question I asked. Sorry your reading comprehension level is at the same equivalence of your attraction to booby milk

Tsugaga2 votes

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I asked why would someone even pick nidalee jg, I dont see her having a chance. thats pretty much the question I asked. Sorry your reading comprehension level is at the same equivalence of your attraction to booby milk

I fully comprehended what you asked, and I gave you a very simple answer.

You: "I have to ask, why do people pick nidalee jg?"

I: "Maybe because some players like to have fun and don't have time to learn 100+ champions, so they only play their few favorite champs. If a player wants to play Nid and has fun playing Nid then they'll play Nid."

What don't you comprehend about my answer? You asked, I gave my answer. What's the problem? I don't see why you continue to bash I, that's extremely inappropriate and rude, and I've not bashed you at all. Also, milk is only produced within mammary glands which are within the breasts of mammals, all milk is "booby milk", so really the phrase "booby milk" doesn't make much sense. I do like milk very much.

RogueWill2 votes

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Regardless if you like my response or not, I in no way bashed you, so you bashing I is inappropriate and wrong. You say you didn't ask for a salty response, but did you ask for a sweet response? No, you didn't, all you did was ask a question and I gave my honest answer. Your question didn't seem serious because you stated that lower MMR players "don't know dirt about strategy or objectives" and stated that you can't think of Nid having a chance in any of those situations, which gives the impression that all you care about is strategy and winning and not whether or not the people on your team are actually having fun. Yes, winning is nice and strategy is good, but players will play their selected champ because that's the champ they want to play for whatever reason, simple as that.

Funny thing is besides Lee Sin and Xin Zhao Nid will dumpster the rest of the junglers mentioned so bad early game to the point they will be useless late game (Sejuani the exception because her ult is always of use) . Is really hard to take OP question seriously when he bashes people in lower elos and still dail to see how NIdalee woudl win those match ups.

fullbacks631 votes

Nidalee in lower elo never wins, Im pretty confident even in higher elo, nidalee wont win against a decent yi, or nocturne. Nidalee has a horrible time taking down tanks. Her spear is most of her damage. She has like no lifesteal, only heal.

Nidalee will never dumpster the junglers if the junglers are good and know what they are doing.

EcchiOtakuTM3 votes

Her clears aside from malz are fastest in the game, her pressure is immense, she can outfarm enemy junglers,provides good vision, manaless clears,

By the time any of your "better junglers" can actually do anything her team can be an several items or more ahead already.

Buff Jax please2 votes

Who still plays Jax jungle? Should be reported. He is a trollpick right now and so are Xin and Yi jungle.

Nidale is one of the 3 best junglers in the game along with Graves and Kindred.

fullbacks631 votes

Ill give you some examples, I play Nasus top, pantheon top, Yasuo mid,

All three of them will wreck you and their own laner together. The only champion I agree with you on is Kindred is good. Jax is one of the best junglers, his wave clear is insane and with his ability to dodge basic attacks he can annihilate the fed adcs. Same with master yi.

RogueWill3 votes

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Ill give you some examples, I play Nasus top, pantheon top, Yasuo mid,

All three of them will wreck you and their own laner together. The only champion I agree with you on is Kindred is good. Jax is one of the best junglers, his wave clear is insane and with his ability to dodge basic attacks he can annihilate the fed adcs. Same with master yi.

Sorry man but when I heard someone saying Yi is one of the best junglers I can't take him/her seriously.

Here is the thing man, Jungle is far more than ganks and farming camps. Nidalee has one of the highest clear speeds on the jungle (comparable to shyvanna) While still be able to stay quite healthy in the jungle. She is the type of jungler where you want to be from lane to lane (similarly if you were hec). You have a manaless dash on ridiculously short CD and a speed boost on bushes. I deally you don't fcous on big camps objectives (dragon, rift, baron) unless you have heavy support from your team. You are ridicously strong at countgerjungling, you can go from stealing buffs with a spear from affar, to jump in their faces and do insane damage early game. She starts to fall around level 13 but the job of a nidalee i to be incredibly ahead at that point.

Nasus top will definetly die to a Nidalee anytime before he is level 11, if the top is smart he will freeze lane close to his turret and wait for nidalee, if Nasus wants stacks he will have to overextent, if he does Nid will kill him. If nasus forfeits the stacks then he will be either useless late game or will have to keep farming top longer which gives Nid the opportunity to 5v4 with his team.

Yasuo defense is his WindWall, if you come from the flank yas will have to decide to either windwall whatever is coming form his laner or block the damage coming from you, that's if you don't land a spear from the fog of war, because if you do all you have to do is go ham on him and he is pretty much dead.

The panth, Panth is a really strong bully on 1v1 scenarios, but only because of his Q which is single target and usually maxed first. On a 2v1 scenario (a gank) panth won't have the damage or the utility to kill you both or run away. Most will try to get a kill for a kill instead.

fullbacks631 votes

You havent met a yi who is very good then which is something I think many high elos lack. I watch high elo games and most of them are just groups of people working together with decent teams.

I watch trick2g, sirchez, wings of death, (only true one I think is imaqtpie).

Anyway, I digress, Youre entire mentioning are based on... IF the enemy jungler ganks you successfully. IF someone is getting ganked its usually their fault, and Ill tell you why as a jungler, As a jungler upon farming my camps, ganking, I am always taking scuttle, I am counter jungling, I am smiting their wolves, and I am pinking some key spots in their jg to let my laners know where their jungler is at all times.

I am referring to 1 on 1, which is many times the case. Champions like xin zhao and yi and maybe nocturne, definitely jax, are capable of 1 v 2 the bot lane, or 1 v 1 most of the other lanes if they play decently.

Nidalee is useless, ESPECIALLY at lower elo. I jungle alot lately and with the way I keep a gold advantage, farm hard, counter jungle, and ward, if someone in my team gets ganked, its their fault.

MissMikasa1 votes

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Nidalee is useless, ESPECIALLY at lower elo.

Wow. What a way to be rude to the lower elos. She is not useless in the lower elo especially if someone knows how to play her, like me. Not all bronzies are complete crap, so get that out of your head please.

fullbacks631 votes

I am not in the belief that lower elo is crap, my accounts are bronze, silver, and gold respectively.

Infact there are plenty of bronze/silver folks who 1 on 1 can wreck a platinum player in laning phase.

High elo talks about low elo like its a bunch of dumbasses when it really isnt, and in many cases its not possible for all high elo players to just "carry low " elo.

We had a vayne today who intentionally fed the enemy 35 times. Our midlane was also pretty useless. IT made it impossible for a diamond ryze and nocturne (me) to carry that game even though we were just on par with gold despite the feeding.

I mentioned especially at lower elo because lower elo folks use some of the easy formerly sated champions such as xin zhao, master yi, etc.

MissMikasa1 votes

I'm sorry I assumed you were like all the other high elo a**holes who think all low elo is crap. Some are, but not all.

Yea I've played with Golds and Plats that played absolute shit before while us bronzies and silvers were wrecking.

I've been playing a lot of jungle today (on my main, this is my smurf). I saw one Yi, two Kindreds, Amumu, Xin, and Jax. I played Nid once and that was against a Kindred. I didn't really go after him much cause my ADC usually would pick him off before I would get to him (she got mega fed). Anyway, that game isn't really good to base off of. I see all kinds of junglers. Nid does well against a lot and some she has trouble with. I just think that low elo can utilize her well if they know how to play her.

RogueWill1 votes

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You havent met a yi who is very good then which is something I think many high elos lack. I watch high elo games and most of them are just groups of people working together with decent teams.

I watch trick2g, sirchez, wings of death, (only true one I think is imaqtpie).

Anyway, I digress, Youre entire mentioning are based on... IF the enemy jungler ganks you successfully. IF someone is getting ganked its usually their fault, and Ill tell you why as a jungler, As a jungler upon farming my camps, ganking, I am always taking scuttle, I am counter jungling, I am smiting their wolves, and I am pinking some key spots in their jg to let my laners know where their jungler is at all times.

I am referring to 1 on 1, which is many times the case. Champions like xin zhao and yi and maybe nocturne, definitely jax, are capable of 1 v 2 the bot lane, or 1 v 1 most of the other lanes if they play decently.

Nidalee is useless, ESPECIALLY at lower elo. I jungle alot lately and with the way I keep a gold advantage, farm hard, counter jungle, and ward, if someone in my team gets ganked, its their fault.

Please compare apples to apples and oranges to oranges. I'm comparing a high skill nidalee to a high skill yi. If you compare a high skill yi to a low skill nidalee it seems a tad biased.

And fyi, due to nidalee dash she can avoid many of the key spots you mention and get on your blind spot quite easily abaiding scout and wards

fullbacks631 votes

Im going to explain this to you, dont get butthurt over it. This game Is not about skill, there is no such thing as "Skill" in this video game.

This game consists of a bunch of drop outs, stoners, and nerds who just play all day.

Everyone is on the same playing field with the same set of champions.

The so called skill you speak of are tips that lower elo folks dont care enough to learn about, or that they do know about and their team has no idea about it so they lose.

RogueWill1 votes

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Im going to explain this to you, dont get butthurt over it. This game Is not about skill, there is no such thing as "Skill" in this video game.

This game consists of a bunch of drop outs, stoners, and nerds who just play all day.

Everyone is on the same playing field with the same set of champions.

The so called skill you speak of are tips that lower elo folks dont care enough to learn about, or that they do know about and their team has no idea about it so they lose.

So.... everyone that is better than me is a nerd without life and everyone that is worse than me is a noob. Seem legit man.

I honestly was trying to have a real argument about your thread but is obvious that you are not interesting in that so...... KUDOS! Nidalee Troll Pick

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fullbacks631 votes

Im not saying "better than". This isnt a sport. You all have the same abilities, This isnt where your strengths and practice helps you. This is a game where tips carry you along with team coordination.

So no I dont thin anyone is "better than me"

you just have to look at some of the fool pros, Trick 2g, Imaqtpie, etc. These guys dont have the brains to outsmart yo, just hours of experience.

Buff Jax please1 votes

Lmao...Jax' waveclear is insane? You realized Rageblade got changed? Are you maxing E on Jax and build 45% so oyu have waveclear?

Jax jungle currently is one of the worst picks you can do...only effective if you wanna make your team lose on purpose. Same goes for Yi. Absolutely no reason to pick them if you are trying to win.

Nik Nikerson1 votes

She is... in the hands of a good player. I will never deny that. At bronze and silver though, I have seen maybe (and that's a big maybe) 5 decent Nidalee players. And a bad Nidalee player is BAD. People at low elo have no idea how to properly use her to full effect. They never get ahead, never leverage their early game power into lane pressure, and eventually get outscaled by other junglers that are better in team fights. I would kill to get a good Nidalee on my team. They just don't exist at low elo.

Buff Jax please1 votes

Well probably but true but I haven't played in Silver or Bronze since Season 3...and I don't think you should use that as an indicator for her strength.

Nik Nikerson1 votes

Oh no, of course not, she's obviously powerful. I personally just wish people at my terrible elo would realize they have to actually learn how to play her and stop doing it just because the pro's do, without having any idea why she's strong.

DrDiaga2 votes

Never ending supply of stupid posts on these boards.

fullbacks631 votes

Yes, as long as you continue to comment on the boards in endless supply, rekt.

CerealBoxOfDoom2 votes

nid moves around fast and safe ganks from range.

though people probably seek these traits for the wrong reasons

Bhagswag1 votes

Manaless clear. Good gank pressure. Vision (W).

Neo Metalsonic1 votes

Jax, yi, Xin are troll picks after sated nerf nidalee completely demolishes them.

Nidalee hard counters Rek and Lee

Nocturne has a very hard time against Nidalee as well, since he can't catch up with mobility.

Nida is probably one of the most stable counters to sejuani because again mobility and damage.

Zac, Voli and Kindred are the only ones who kind of counter Nidalee.

There are some where it is even as well.

Nida is in almost every game in diamond, quite ridiculous because she's good against so much junglers.

fullbacks631 votes

I dont see any chance for nidalee standing up to jax yi or xin zhao. I honestly dont see anyone who can beat yi if he goes a heavy duty damage build. item 3072 item 3031 item 3087 item 3074 item 3508

MissMikasa1 votes

I think you are forgetting that most people are building her bruiser right now, so yes she can take on a full heavy duty Yi if she's not going full squishy AP.

fullbacks631 votes

The build I mentioned above does 1000 damage per hit, with greavers as shoes. If I add yommus blade, dusk blade, or anything that does 75 AD, youre looking at almost 1500 damage per basic attack. With static shiv charged I killed gromp in literally 1 basic attack.

So what youre looking at is 3 hits for someone like nidalee (With little to no life steal).

MissMikasa1 votes

Well Nidalee doesn't build lifesteal because she's AP. Her heal scales off with AP so the more AP she has, the better it heals. Anyway, did you completely forget I said bruiser nid or what? I don't know if you are listening really well. Bruiser Nid can take down a Yi, especially if she builds armor (people like to get iceborn on her among other items). Add a Randuins, that takes crit damage down. It's each players choice on what to get, but a bruiser Nid can definitely take down a heavy duty Yi.

fullbacks631 votes

If what you mean by bruiser is tanky dps champion, yi can still take her down, because she has no CC On yi. All yi needs to do is get one MR item, and he will wreck nidalee. ESPECIALLY late game. Many champions are easy to control early game but not late game. As far as if nidalee goes armor, I would just go armor penetration with yi. item 1400 item 3156 item 3147 item 3142 item 3033 item 3072 . This build would signifcantly cut her healing, deal around 500 true damage per second or faster to her. she Would be dead before she knows it.

MissMikasa1 votes

Most yi's don't build straight up pen as they want some kind of tanky build besides just Maw. Also, Deathblade is not meant for him anyway, so don't use it. It ticks me off that so many assassins that can kill champions with their own abilities EASILY take that item just to snowball harder when its meant for the ones that have a HARDER time. Riot said it was meant for Kha and Talon, not Yi or Zed or even Rivens that I see build it.

And still, if a Nid want item 1402 item 3025 item 3143 item 3151 item 3075 item 3027 or something like that, a Yi will be hard pressed to kill her even with full pen. I just don't see him taking her down at all. If she hits a long range Q on him, turns into cougar but waits for him to Q before jumping in and finishing him off cougar WEQ, he's dead or almost. If he decides to heal while she's trying to kill him, she can switch back, heal herself, back up a bit, then spear and combo again.

A Yi with one MR item can not wreck her. She will have armor and MR in her runes and masteries (usually, if someone doesn't then they are being really risky), she will have some sort of magic pen item unless she just goes straight tank, and she will have armor items to negate his burst.

I'm sorry but I think you are just an biased assassin main that thinks she can't take anyone down when she can.

DREADN0UGHT1 votes

because niddalee support is so season 3

Narvuntien1 votes

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Especially in lower elos where people dont know dirt about strategy or objectives, the usual picks for jg are Jax, Sejuani, lee sin, Master yi, zin zhao, nocturne, reksai.

I cant think in any of these situations of nidalee having a chance.

here watch this.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mCnLRfueC4o

control junglers, what better way to tilt someone than taking all of their jungle.

fullbacks631 votes

Thats kinda cool, but Yi and jax clear faster than nidalee, With yi I finish off the enemy jungle way faster.

Lugg1 votes

It can be argued that Nidalee could be the strongest champ in the game. She has the fastest clear speeds in the jungle, so she can counterjungle and start ganking very early in the game. This early pressure usually translates into a fed Nid and fed lanes. Even the biggest noobs can get ahead if their jungler is killing off their lane opponent.

Best Valor NA1 votes

shes fun

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