Unless you rush lethality you have 0 dmg on E, also you have only 1 viable way to play it: oneshot or get oneshotted. Shaco (old shaco aka real shaco) could be used in tons of different way and you had no only a single way to build it. Srsly make it return to be the old mad clown and not this horrible champ that you made after rework
by a shaco main
Anime Fizz2 votesShAcO iS WeAk GuYs
https://lolalytics.com/ranked/worldwide/platinum/plus/champion/Shaco/
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ShAcO iS WeAk GuYs
https://lolalytics.com/ranked/worldwide/platinum/plus/champion/Shaco/
Nobody is saying he's weak. He's just really boring and depressing to play as. i'd love his Q to be changed to camo and everything else gets buffed. If it meant he did damage on his kit instead of item passive's
Butterwood1 votesAgreed. I'd be fine with a complete lethality overhaul if it meant Shaco got reverted. Only having one way to play him is so boring.
xDogMeatx1 voteswhat was old shaco? what was his old things that made him more playable
DJBlackVoice1 votesFor example Q and E had a big difference since you could max Q later. Also the old passive was way better than this and it was the real skill of a shaco (hit always from behind). Even R dmg was better, now when copy dies it does realy low dmg expect you have 800+ ap, but ap shaco atm is realy unplayable in jungle.
xDogMeatx1 votesoh i feel jealous you got to experience old shaco.
HA I am Shaco HA1 voteswhat was old shaco? what was his old things that made him more playable
You had more builds to play with. You could play anything on old Shaco and it would work. Now he only has 1 viable build that's soo boring.
xDogMeatx1 votestell me all the possible builds that arent viable now. i wish to learn more
HA I am Shaco HA1 votestell me all the possible builds that arent viable now. i wish to learn more
Tank Shaco, Ap Shaco, Attack speed Shaco, Crit Shaco, Bruiser Shaco.
xDogMeatx1 votesscary.... i wanna see multiple builds happen if riot gave him his old form back.
The thigh guy1 votesI fail to see the issue here. He’s an assassin. Assassins stack mass pen. Adc stacks ad and as. Tanks stack nothing cause they’re irrelevant. Mages stack ap.
DJBlackVoice1 votesthe problem is that yo can rely only on lethality. Shaco (old) was used to build ap or ad, or crit, attack speed, even tank and it could works in all possible builds. Now you cant even do ap shaco anymore since E got changed and nerfed into oblivion. Try max it rank 5 and look his dmg. Maybe it can hit for 50% of one auto. Also interaction with red trinket and W is a big issue that still people dont notice.
The thigh guy1 votesthe problem is that yo can rely only on lethality. Shaco (old) was used to build ap or ad, or crit, attack speed, even tank and it could works in all possible builds. Now you cant even do ap shaco anymore since E got changed and nerfed into oblivion. Try max it rank 5 and look his dmg. Maybe it can hit for 50% of one auto. Also interaction with red trinket and W is a big issue that still people dont notice.
Okay? So he can’t build every item in the list and be just as effective as lethality Shaco. I still fail to see the problem.
No one is complaining that ap jinx is trash tier compared to ad jinx. No one is complaining Darius can’t go full ap and do good.