If you lost your lane

VeryGreen·12/8/2015, 2:43:12 PM·25 votes·1,978 views

If you lost your lane, its your own fault. Do not blame anyone else. A jungler should not camp your lane cause you dont understand how to play safe. I will not roam to your lane after you gave someone else 4 kills and let them free farm. That is just a double kill waiting to happen.

If you lost lane, you simply arent as good as the person you are up against. Cool they got ganks. Well ward and play safe. Its like warding and playing safe arent an option in most peoples books. I don't get it.

Please dont play yasuo top into a Renekton. Actually just dont play yasuo top PLEASE.

49 Comments

MochaChank12/8/2015, 3:27:44 PM16 votes

Well, thing is, people don't understand the difference between asking for help and throwing blame. Mid: Jungler can you gank plz Jungler: Not my fault you lost lane. Top: Mid stop blaming Jungler lol Bot: Yea dont worry about ganking mid he sucks. Mid: I was just asking Top: Stfu reported Jungler: /all report mid plz trolling and feeding and blaming.

90% of games

Captain Aishi12/8/2015, 4:55:56 PM8 votes

i'd like to think that games where you get counterpicked super hard and the jungler says 'i'm not coming to your lane' at the start of the game, then the enemy jungler shows up and they towerdive you twice... aren't necessarily your fault you lost lane

FHMarshy12/8/2015, 2:48:22 PM2 votes

I agreed with everything 100% until your last sentence. I think Yasuo is viable top against certain champs :P

Lil Lewd Witch12/8/2015, 4:35:09 PM2 votes

I use to bea jungle main but I switched to ADC because I was 100% done with laners. Because it's always the laners never ever warding, never using trinkets, never thinking, knowing they're being camped and still get baited into being killed. Props to the people who have the patience to deal with that crap. I prefer just winning my own lane.

Indominus Blade12/8/2015, 9:22:22 PM2 votes

You don't know what you are talking about, it is your job as the jungler to make your lanes snowball, if enemy jungler ganks top, you answer by equalizing with your own gank, if he camps top, you counter camp top. I am diamond, I understand the game better than you, any jungler that blames his laners for losing if they get enemy jungle pressure is a clueless noob.

Wînter Fox12/8/2015, 9:37:57 PM2 votes

Everyone just needs a change of mindset. I used to get so pissed off if the enemy jungler kept camping me until it dawned on me - it means you're the primary threat. This is a compliment. You're doing your job and causing a 4v3 for the rest of your team, and it's up to them to capitalize.

I won't even ask for ganks, I'll simply say "Mid/Top is a 2v1 lane its up to you guys to take advantage" - which usually translates to free dragons and towers.

Slamurai Jack12/8/2015, 9:44:48 PM2 votes

Eventually, you'll get to an elo where it isn't quite that simple. But for 95% of the playerbase, yes, this is basically correct.

Ace Access 12/8/2015, 6:26:53 PM1 votes

what if enemy mid and jg are in bot lane for the first 10mins making it a 4v2 and my allies don't help ... is it still me and my supps fault that they took down bot tower ?

kaltenashes12/8/2015, 6:49:24 PM1 votes

so sad, in a lot of games, the bot lane is getting collapsed under 10 min, so many ganks, so many 4 man ganks.

if your bot lane is the losing, you cant really do anything but hope that someone else carries the game

alfavhunter12/8/2015, 7:19:18 PM1 votes

There is always an exception to the rule

I've had my jungler Gank at lvl 3, to tower dive and give them double buff, the. Come right back and try again when I'm not even in lane, until they are 4 kills from the jungler... And I can't do much about it now with thier 1.2k gold lead even though I haven't died once

LordKentravyon12/9/2015, 6:05:57 AM1 votes

Yes don't blame the jungler

but sometimes things are beyond your control.

For example:

Player gets counterpicked, they play safe and get decent cs, some point during laning phase they get ganked but survive, although they are forced to back. While returning to the map your opponent roamed, ganked a lane / engaged in a skirmish and picked up a kill or two. Now they are not only a counter but blatantly stronger than you are you find yourself falling behind because they can no longer safely CS.

I would not blame an individual for such a predicament. No it is not the junglers role / responsibility to help them. Depending on the circumstances on the game it may be wise too, it may not. However if the jungler does not aid them the laner has no business blaming them. However the laner in question cannot be justly blamed for loosing the lane. Especially if he doesn't receive aid.

Just because the other teams jungler helps a lane doesn't mean your forced to help hat lane too, but you need to acknowledge that sometimes a small presence for them could potentially have a large impact on the outcome of the lane if not matched.
For example if you have two mages mid and only one receives a blue buff (NOT SAYING THE JUNGLER NEEDS TO GIVE BLUE I FREQUENTLY TAKE 2-3 MYSELF) it needs to be acknowledged that the one lacking blue will likely not be at a disadvantage, because they lack the resource to compete with the extra harass / poke stemming from their opponents blue. Could very well be a contributing factor to lost cs, loss of tower from being forced to back or even a death. However since the person with the blue is likely to push an you match the other junglers contribution with a gank, you may swing the lane in your teams favor.

I am in no means the best jungler, but just as I expect to not be blamed by a laner for their hardships, I will not blame them for the state of their lane if I have helped them significantly less than the enemy jungler / they are in an unfavorable match up. (This is assuming that are at least semi competent, not some moron blatantly hard pushing without wards)

Supreme Senpai6912/9/2015, 6:56:06 AM1 votes

If my jungler isn't going to gank for me then whatever, but at least help me ward my lanes up so I can avoid an enemy jungle gank. I just got out of an awesome match where I only got one gank but I got ganked on like a dozen times.

And that Rengar didn't kill me a single time because our Jungler helped me ward.

Bot should be fine, but mid is a tad hard to ward alone. You can ward both brushes every now and then but there's still a blind spot or two.

Spoofghoul12/9/2015, 2:04:00 PM1 votes

According to lol comunity:

If you lost your lane youre a fat cu.nt go hate urself in a corner!

Well at least thats the general response

Ruin Lance12/8/2015, 9:50:35 PM1 votes

"If you lost lane, you simply arent as good as the person you are up against." uh huh, that bronze 1 annie i lost against as yasuo is way better than me because annie is a counter pick lmao also "Please dont play yasuo top into a Renekton. Actually just dont play yasuo top PLEASE." never lost to lane against a renekton as yasuo out of the 6 times that i have done it

TwoD12/9/2015, 12:38:42 AM1 votes

you're all just mad and salty

WalkingInACircle12/9/2015, 1:36:54 AM1 votes

Eh, anyone who believes ganks don't influence a lane and that you can "play safe" and magically make the enemy jungler not a factor should just uninstall.

KoKoboto12/9/2015, 3:03:47 AM1 votes

really damn one sided

Troy24262112/9/2015, 3:17:53 AM1 votes

If you lost your lane, your build should not look like:

item 3078 item 3074

These kinds of decisions are why you end up 0/6 after laning phase.

Left Hook Larry12/9/2015, 4:23:46 AM1 votes

"Please dont play yasuo top into a Renekton. Actually just dont play yasuo top PLEASE"

Still don't know why people ban him every other game still.

ForgiveColour12/9/2015, 4:25:18 AM1 votes

they wouldnt be complaining if you snowballed bot lane but from your post i dont think you did

Dukues12/8/2015, 4:40:28 PM1 votes

All True. Also, if you lose your lane don't troll/flame/afk. You can still help your team late game just play safe and look for opportunities to push, gank, etc.

I remember a game i had right before season ended where I went MonkeyKing top vs. Malphite. This dude was a god at csing with Malphite (at least to me as I suck really really bad at csing as Malphite). He had me pushed in lane, out csing me, beating my ass in fights. He was just a lot better than me in the current situation. I think I only gave him one kill and tried to keep my cool and farm under turret or where I could. Eventually, we got to team fighting and he turned out to miss a few ults while I hit a few clutch Wukong ults and my team ended up winning the game. I felt like shit because I got outplayed the first 15-20 minutes of the game, but the rest of my team did ok and I made some clutch plays between 25-35 mins that helped my team win.

Don't give up just because you losing lane. Just try not to feed.

GuiltyGecko12/8/2015, 6:10:52 PM1 votes

Nothing is ever my fault. I am entitled to my godlike status, but I always get the trolls and feeders.

I deserve challenjour. GG.

Kappa

MunchCrunchLunch12/8/2015, 6:14:40 PM1 votes

false. in this state of the game. 3-4-5 people will gank you because somtimes their minions push enough for them to leave their lanes for a cpl minutes