Nidalee, Mordekaiser, or Shyvana

danielzsssss·4/9/2017, 4:27:23 AM·3 votes·758 views

I can't decide which champion to get. Here are my thoughts:

Nidalee Pros: -fun (sniper simulator) -beast form burst damage -heal -great jungle clearing?

Cons: -not very good laner? -difficult skill shot -mana eater early game

Mordekaiser Pros: -q damage -heal -tankiness and ap shield -ult + ghost dragons!!!

Cons: -no CC -no gap closer -hard to hit 3 times with q

Shyvana Pros: -strong counter jungler? -fast clear and dragon advantage -dragon form with its aoe damage and tankiness

Cons: -not very good ganker? -need ult to chase?

That's all I can think of for now... I don't have much experience with them so feel free to correct me. Please tell me your opinion and the reasons behind why you prefer that champ. Thanks

Edit: Poll didn't work... Oh well

7 Comments

Magical Zoe4/9/2017, 5:04:11 AM4 votes

All I can say about Nidalee is that she requires hours of practice if you play her in the jungle. The new jungle mixed with all of her recent nerfs to her jungle ability screwed her over. She is a bit of a hard learning curve but in the right hands there is no stopping her.Nidalee

junglerboy164/9/2017, 4:51:12 AM3 votes

Definitely Shyvana, far more reliable in solo queue from my experience, more adaptive to her team's needs (you can easily go full tank or throw in a rage blade and/or BotRK and be a dive carry) and in general more fun (although that last part is purely opinion based.

Morde can be cool, but he's still kind of a mess and needs to be fixed for real.

Did seems to just be a nerf magnet or too weak to utilize successfully. I gotta say though, if you get good at her she's very satisfying to play.

Frightning4/9/2017, 5:12:01 AM3 votes

I feel like Shyvana's in a bad spot these days, I remember what she was like before season 6 when she was actually strong (maybe too strong), and she feels like she just gets kited and wrecked in fights these days.

Mordekaiser can be strong, but he needs allies that have good initiation and/or haste/slows so he can reliably get into the action to be effective.

Nidalee is by far the most mechanically complex of the three you mentioned, she will take you ages to get good at, but imo is a ton of fun to play once you get a handle on what she can do and what her limits are. She's very versatile and can be laned (though jungle seems to be the most popular position for her; she can actually be played in every position, though she is no substitute for an actual marksman).

Proxy3454/9/2017, 5:05:44 AM2 votes

Shyvana because her wave clear is very good for top lane and her jungle clears are fast.

GeminiRune4/9/2017, 4:56:03 AM2 votes

I actually had a recent resurgence in using Shyvana to success in jungling and top lane; the top lane match less effective because Fiora reasons...0/7/2 to 10/7/## reasons...late game stuff! Your cons are pretty much on point; she relies on having the ult to make the biggest impact in teamfights; much like Mega Gnar but more open to execution. Of the three you listed, I find her a safe choice, but probably tied with Nidalee on whether or not the best choice.

Asayake 5150glow4/9/2017, 2:21:20 PM2 votes

Shyvana definitely, she's the best carry because of her massive (aoe) damage and tank stats, compared to Morde and Nidalee who are both relatively squishy. You don't need to rely on ganks (and thus teammates) to scale well into mid game, and drag'ing at lvl 4 helps your team without needing to gank.

Your ganks aren't bad either, if you manage to flank. Shyvana's incredible damage makes her really scary, but be careful as you are very squishy early game and are vulnerable to being kited. You should probably avoid bot lane unless you have a Leona or Thresh support, early game.

Your dueling is also good, on account of being a juggernaut. Keep in mind that burst is scary, and you won't be able to duel a Rengar without Exhaust, and probably not Kha either.

In teamfights you can either opt for full tank after TItanic Bloodrazor, or even replace Bloodrazor with Cinderhulk (this build has weaker clears and dueling though), or be a diver with Triforce, Bork, Wit's End, Frozen Mallet, and/or Phantom Dancer. Triforce gives high burst and lets you nearly oneshot squishies combined with Titanic. Bork is best for dueling and if you find yourself needing sustain. Wit's End is good if you need to deal with AP. Frozen Mallet if they're getting away too easily but you don't have trouble dueling them (otherwise Bork is better to make sure that you aren't the one running). Phantom Dancer is another kinda niche duelist item, and I'm not too sure when you'd build it - perhaps when you're dueling a squishy against who Bork won't be as effective? It's a cheap item that gives extra mobility, lots of damage, and damage reduction, so I'd probably buy it against a Yasuo who is just a little too tanky for Triforce to burst down, not tanky enough for Bork to melt, and who I have little trouble sticking to without Frozen Mallet (although PD gives stick as well, just not as much). For tank items, Randuins makes you very tanky with a handy slow in teamfights. Spirit Visage for MR, because duh. A Sunfire Cape or GA is probably the best defensive last item, but generally you'll want Frozen Mallet because at this point, sticking onto an ADC is gonna be very tough (or Triforce to oneshot them, but if they're support can save them past your burst, then it's useless).

Nidalee is really hard to get decent with, with the hardest jungle clear in the game (besides, yunno, jungle Soraka or something). And spears are hard to hit.

Morde is in a really bad spot right now, with lots of bugs too. He's naturally squishy (although with a good heal), and much slower than Shyvana (another juggernaut). His laning top lane is oppressive, though, and he snowballs pretty hard because if you can't kill him before his heal pops, you can't kill him. However, his teamfighting is pretty bad because he's squishy against more than 1 or 2 people. Ghost Dragon is powerful tho.

danielzsssss4/11/2017, 2:03:03 AM1 votes

Thanks for all the feedback guys! Seems like the majority suggests Shyvana so I guess that's who I'll get. Thanks again for the tips c: