@Riot Please give us context on the Viktor nerfs!

Michael Bacon·2/11/2016, 9:39:39 PM·41 votes·1,913 views

Viktor Death Ray (E) Base damage lowered to 70/110/150/190/230 from 70/115/160/205/250 Augment explosion damage lowered to 70/110/150/190/230 from 70/115/160/205/250

Why would you nerf out of all mages right now?

Meanwhile, has been sitting around a 53 - 55% win rate with a 17% pick rate. And with a 53 - 55% win rate with a 18% pick rate. But only has a 47% win rate with a 7% pick rate.

You're buffing/buffed (who didn't need buffs at all) and but nerfing ?

Why should we pick him anymore since you're removing his main identity? He doesn't have as much burst level 6 as he used to compared to most mid laners now. Why not pick the other mages who can nuke you from a mile away instead of whose abilities are short/mid ranged aside from his laser.

Can we PLEASE get some rational context for these nerfs Riot? Thanks in advanced!

45 Comments

blfUvZ8Ybu2/11/2016, 9:43:20 PM12 votes

Because Ahri and Lux Riot's special champions.

blfUvZ8Ybu2/11/2016, 9:46:32 PM7 votes

Viktor:Azir syndrome v2.0 Meanwhile I hope they give nerfs to Ahri and Lux.

blfUvZ8Ybu2/11/2016, 9:43:44 PM5 votes

If riot nerf the best waifu in league, they would lost so much money from big melons ahri skins.

Derfel2/11/2016, 10:39:38 PM4 votes

Cause Riot's dumb? Like what context do you need. They have no idea what they're doing.

MisterHealYoGirl2/11/2016, 9:41:01 PM4 votes

We'll get more context in the general patch notes, but I believe is that his waveclear is too consistent and easy, and he stalls out games pretty hard.

Saianna2/12/2016, 6:32:11 AM3 votes

You want context?! I'll give you context!

Because isn't
Because isn't
Because isn't ADC
Because isn't even AD
Because is a mage

Phoenix Kotori 2/12/2016, 1:01:01 AM2 votes

He's been the most contested middle pick in korea by far right now for a reason.

Crossette2/11/2016, 9:49:44 PM2 votes

Your points all make sense, and I agree...

but fuck viktor kek

I played him for a while in the middle of season 5 and I felt like such an asshole

FacerollKatarina2/11/2016, 9:55:29 PM2 votes

While I think hes annoying to lane vs I do not think that he needed nerfs. but these don't seem major so i wouldn't flip out idk

Gregor Gysi2/12/2016, 12:24:01 PM2 votes

No clue man. Usually I am able to atleast understand why Riot would nerf/buff something. But this is just plain weird, lol.

HoukagoFapTime2/12/2016, 9:13:40 AM1 votes

Wave Clear, that's why, just like the nerf to Malphite's E and the old nerf to TF's Q. Too much waveclear.

Ver Danielle2/12/2016, 12:07:07 PM1 votes

Inb4 people realize Vel'koz outclasses Viktor in pretty much anything. Waveclear, zoning potential, poke, more reliable CC, more AOE burst, better range, less mana starved.

Nerfed Viktor E damage: 322+.98AP Vel's W damage: 275+.625AP Sure, Vel's W is weaker, but he can cast it 2 times in row if needed. Also if Viktor uses E as waveclear he can't poke while Vel' still has his Q to poke/zone.

Ves2/13/2016, 2:13:15 AM1 votes

I'm from XoXXoX_'s stream

iainB852/12/2016, 2:11:05 AM1 votes

One personal thing I notice is that with Lux and Ahri you can play safe and avoid their combo of big damage, while with Viktor he can pretty much just cast things directly on top of you with no chance to interact.

I honestly think Viktor is problematic because he lacks any kind of serious counter play as he doesn't need to land any kind of skill shot snare/charm to 100-0 people to begin with.