Can the price of Null-Magic Mantle be reduced?

Frostyloid·6/27/2015, 10:02:58 PM·24 votes·2,767 views

Right now it's too expensive to be a starter item and it would be extremely helpful for certain match ups if you could start the game with some extra MR. Plus it's one of the few stats you can't buy at the start of the game. You can get health, armor, AD, AP, mana regen, health regen, crit chance, movespeed, lifesteal, or attack speed, but you can't start with MR.

44 Comments

MohawkBird6/27/2015, 11:16:56 PM15 votes

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EndlessSorcerer6/27/2015, 11:18:33 PM2 votes

Crystalline Flask was typically a better starting item even when Null Magic Mantle only cost 400g.

If you really need early MR for a matchup, I'd recommend taking Flat MR Quints and Glyphs and starting with Crystalline Flask.

Strossus Gran6/27/2015, 11:30:56 PM2 votes

That was a decision VERY intentionally done by Riot, so no, it won't be reduced to a starter item. On the upside, if you really need it that bad early you're probably top lane and can go get it and tp back to lane, or you're a mid in blind pick that had the poor luck to pick into a terrible matchup, but that's the cost of blind pick. Every time I think 'hey, I'll try Kat again' in blind, there's a team of 5 knockup/targetted stuns on the other team, happens.

LoLKiru6/27/2015, 11:34:46 PM2 votes

Yeah as other posters said this is done intentionally, you arn't intended to start the game with that much MR (simply due to the nature of most magic damage, its done in bursts based on cooldowns, VS auto attacks which can occur without limit; being able to start with MR would make things pretty rough for nearly every mage)

Also worth noting most mages start with very little AP compared to starting AD (I believe the maximum possible amount of AP, assuming you have a full AP runepage and 21/9/0 masteries is around 67)

Mandang06/28/2015, 6:39:06 AM1 votes

If Riot does this, they should also make amplifying tome cheaper with it. Right now neither gets taken to lane because they're both too expensive on your first buy.

Laraso6/27/2015, 10:49:28 PM1 votes

Just take 21 in utility. Then you can afford it.

XIII Vanitas6/28/2015, 11:52:34 PM1 votes

Have you ever asked yourself if you should start with MR in the first place?

MCBiggah996/27/2015, 11:15:26 PM1 votes

PLEASE do this Rito, it'd be so amazing against LeBlanc, Vlad and such. My Galio wants <3

Best Azır NA6/28/2015, 1:10:26 AM1 votes

BRING BACK THE GALIO DREAM NULL+2

WutsKraken6/28/2015, 1:30:19 AM1 votes

I'd really like being able to start with that and 2 pots vs Kennen or Vlad or Rumble, idk