ARURF in a nutshell

Tormentula··93 votes·6,961 views
  • Get in champ select, get something really awful in urf and the guy who got your main refuses to trade, so you reroll 2 times and get something even worse, you think its the end so you set up your runes and masteries to prepare for your team to get stomped, but all of a sudden, dodge and you're relieved to have all your rerolls back and not have to play the champion you hate in urf!

  • So you requeue because you were saved by the bell.. and suddenly you get your pocket pick! A champion you've been waiting for over a year for in urf because you never were able to try it in all the other ARURFs. Its your moment and your team looks strong! You setup your runes and masteries to get ready, but by the time you get 5 points in the 2nd tree.. dodge

  • So it wasn't mean to be... and you requeue for another chance, maybe you'll get lucky? Then champ select pops up, and you see a similar scenario to the first time.. somebody with your main! but before you can even trade them, they reroll it... so you get ready to dodge yourself but decide to use your rerolls instead... and there it is, your main, fate seems to smile on you and you get your runes and masteries ready again, this time the timer ticks to 0, and you get a small glimspe of their team... you cry internally as the loading screen consist of mao, shaco, eve, nasus, and veigar. You know even your main won't be enough for you to enjoy yourself. So you go through the next 15 minutes of your life, feeding and getting BM'd by the level 7 eve and the game ends with a ggez. You wish you dodged and waited an extra 5 minutes worth of queue and champ select time over this game, but sadly, you just learned the painful truth. ARURF sucks.

Seriously can we just get 10 bans in regular urf or champs disabled? I get playing against urf metas is toxic, but I'd rather play against a meta and deal with it with my favorites, over being forced to potentially play against a meta and then get shit on because I got something utter trash.

64 Comments

XenociderOmega71 votes

It's not even random it's the same 30 champs over and over again.

AmetDeCrypt11 votes

I have to concur from what I've seen, at least.

though that makes no sense, take choice away because people only played the top champions.... and then only let them play the top champions...

Tormentula5 votes

Its mostly because the top champions are also the cheaper ones.

Not much in the 6300 ip range is as problematic as 450 (garen, yi, annie, etc) 1350 (eve, vei, nasus, morg, etc) 3150 (shaco, etc etc etc don't remember prices well).

So that bi-products as people most likely owning them when playing ARURF, accounts don't own all champions so their champion pool is even more limited to them, etc.

ZeroAgainst7 votes

easy fix let them choose from all champ pools making new players buy rp to play this new champ they now love

AmetDeCrypt1 votes

calm down satan. my motives for true random are strictly puritan.

Razör6 votes

Dude dont use logic here

SweedishGunner1 votes

I'm still waiting to get Azir.

._.

Sraeg20132 votes

Fucking ARAM accounts.

Nekusen9 votes

Why are people so meticulous about URF ? It's supposed to be ridiculous and completely unbalanced.

Moosenocalypse22 votes

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Why are people so meticulous about URF ? It's supposed to be ridiculous and completely unbalanced.

Then why does it feel like I'm playing the same matchup 75% of the time?

Dr Poro2 votes

You prefer to play the same matchup 100% of the time? Because that's what OP is asking for.

Sraeg20139 votes

OP wants to ban ARAM account favourites so there's some semblance of fairness.

Dr Poro2 votes

I'm all for making ARAM and ARURF use the entire champion pool, but Riot doesn't want it because new players will more often get champs they can't play.

ARAM and ARURF have quite some different top tiers, though. While many champs overlap (long range mages), ARURF has a ton of OP assassins/fighters like Eve, Yi, Xin, Jax, Zed, Talon that are just terrible or mediocre in ARAM.

I wouldn't mind disabling some champs. Sona seems to be disabled as I haven't seen her in any game this week and lolalytics doesn't have stats for her.

Sraeg20131 votes

Those champions are only good if they don't play against ARAM top tiers.

Zed/Jax lane isn't going to do shit vs a Nami/Quinn lane.

Their laning stops at level 2 at which point they get perma-CC'd.

Dr Poro1 votes

what is nami/quinn going to do against a lvl 2 Zed spamming shurikens from 2000 range? He's one of the best and longest range poke spammer in urf on top of being a decent assassin. Jax has a poor early game indeed but once you got your gunblade, you can one-shot anyone trying to poke you. Even before that, you'll most likely win all-ins unless you get outplayed. You can also just jungle early game if you have a waveclear champ that can 1v2 turret hug in top and then gank for easy doubles. Even if you somehow go 0-5, you'll still dominate once you got gunblade.

Sraeg20131 votes

Blind from Quinn -> Bubble from Nami -> Kick from Quinn -> Blind from Quinn -> Bubble... etc.

I've lived through that.

Well, "lived" is a wrong word really.

Tormentula7 votes

Ridiculous and completely unbalanced doesn't change with AR or regular urf.

The fun factor changes drastically, since there's nothing fun about being forced to play something you don't want to ever do in your lifetime while staring at the thing you want to play or some broken shit and know for a fact the only reason its there is because of RNG giving a giant middle finger to you but not everybody else.

Sraeg20138 votes

It's not RNG.

Those people who always seem to Ziggs, Karthus, Veigar or Xerath have only those champions + rotation.

We call those fuckers "ARAM accounts".

DKM Bismarck1 votes

ARAM accounts are why i don't play ANY random game mode. I don't want to go and queue up for ARAM, ARURF, ARSR, and get Gragas, just to go vs Veigar, Xerath, Lux, Varus and Sona lol

Nekusen1 votes

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Ridiculous and completely unbalanced doesn't change with AR or regular urf.

The fun factor changes drastically, since there's nothing fun about being forced to play something you don't want to ever do in your lifetime while staring at the thing you want to play or some broken shit and know for a fact the only reason its there is because of RNG giving a giant middle finger to you but not everybody else.

Then, as i said in a comment above, URF is not the mode you want to play.

RavenMagus1 votes

Because it's not very fun when the enemy team rolls Shaco and you get to spend the next 15 minutes in fountain watching them slowly push your base while you afk (...because that's honestly better than wandering into the jack in a box minefield to fight an enemy with permastealth).

Nekusen1 votes

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Because it's not very fun when the enemy team rolls Shaco and you get to spend the next 15 minutes in fountain watching them slowly push your base while you afk (...because that's honestly better than wandering into the jack in a box minefield to fight an enemy with permastealth).

Then it seems URF is not the mode you want to play.

Skorch7 votes

"I get playing against urf metas is toxic, but I'd rather play against a meta and deal with it with my favorites,"

THIS PLEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEASE.

I always hated URF metas, and even though i usually see Riots reasoning in things they do. And even though i do still enjoy ARURF. This sentance is why i was confused when it first happened.

I was always like: "So we had to ban away: Shaco, Mao, Wuk, Eve. (Well we only got 3) but at least i could fuck around and it wouldnt be instant cancer. I just wanted to play like old Urgot, or now i just wanna play nothing but AS Jhin. Especially with 5 bans, Old URF was better.

Mr Mochí3 votes

Or when you reroll you can choose between three champions randomly selected. You only get one rr per champ select. I like that it is random cause you get to play somethings that you normally wouldnt have thought would be fun, but it gets irritating when you see a champion more than once and others you never see.

Razör1 votes

Good idea i would like to see this

Flemman3 votes

Fixing arurf will require many thing.

First, we need a ban phase before the random champion pick so you can ban something you really don't want to face (wukong/malz/stuff like that)

Then, for the pick phase, we need either the full champion pool available (but will probably increase dodge rate) or, and I think it's the best option, allow mirror matchup. I don't mind poeple with no "bad champ in urf" in their collection as long as I have the same tool than them. Face a lux with lux, I'm all for it, bring it to me, with a yorick on the other end, I know it will just be 15 min of no amusement ( and I'm use to play both, but can see when a champ as nothing for him in urf tho)

Last, maybe shorten pick time by 5 sec and use those 5 seconds to show enemy team before loading screen. In some matchup^, having cleanse instead of flash could be better (and we could bring an updated version of clarity just to get true vision on stealth champ for a short time so there is actually a window to fight them)

SpaghettiVase3 votes

So far my ARURF experience has been

Other team gets a good pick One lane starts losing hard Those laners start to troll either by walking into the enemy base or by troll building (It's urf but still going full AP Cait isn't doing anything) We lose even though we coulda won had the whole team actually worked together and not just use URF as trolling practice.

TimX24968B1 votes

I thought troll building was supposed to be part of the urf experience.

JusticePauldrons3 votes

Yet somehow there is a lux in every game.

I honest to god hate urf. I have always thought it was a stupid game mode and the community is way to competitive to just have fun with it. Urf to me is just a way to highlight the more infuriating champions. Unfortunately for me my friends are amond the group that freak out every time it comes back despite them all raging by ten minutes.

Dildo Schwagins3 votes

Rioter1 : what can we do to make our player base unhappy? Rioter2 : i know lets take something everyone loved and make it cancer to play. Rioter1 : briliant! riot is rewarding those who break their TOS and punishes those who follow the rules with AR URF it motivates people to make second accounts that have only specifc cahmps on it.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FDjac8grplU this says it all

ninjaroxas2 votes

You dont seem to realise ten bans wont stop that. People arent going to ban all of those champs if they want to play them

Tormentula3 votes

Same logic applies in ranked draft, nobody is going to ban meta picks if they're going to play them. Either way its still more enjoyable knowing you have control on what you never want to see or need a break from it rather than being forced to randomly go against it.

V The Support V1 votes

Won't solve much. ban top 10 broken champs in urf and everyone will just pick/play for the next 10 down the list. Personally my least favorite game mode.

Tormentula1 votes

Again, same as norms.

Ban the top 10 next best 10 fill their spot. Urf definitely has more then 10 issues for sure (like regular rift..) but again, at least we can limit what cancer we can go against. For instance, I don't care about shaco but fuck wukong personally.. I could make sure I never see wu in urf, and leave shaco open and if I see a shaco its only myself to blame for the trade off, rather then riot for letting it exist in the first place. I can at least limit my options to whats most enjoyable for me personally.

Cavesloth1 votes

Yeah Wukong is basically an autowin unless the enemy has tons of cc/poke and knows what they are doing. I've been lucky and haven't faced him this time around, but zed.... Fuck facing a Zed, yeah hes beatable, but goddamn is it annoying. Being able to ban things would be great, draft picking would be even better.

Leblancs Boob2 votes

ARAM in a nutshell... except add 10 more dodges.

z63XnLCMwX1 votes

So let me get this straight, you used up two reroll on the first one but still magically somehow have more re-rolls for the third scenario?

Tormentula13 votes

Rerolls are refunded if somebody in champ select dodges.

SweedishGunner1 votes

I keep getting Shen every time I re-roll and I'm just dodging it out the ass. I love old Shen, but I cannot stand new Shen.

Dildo Schwagins1 votes

all they did was take vorpal blade away

SweedishGunner1 votes

He just feels completely different to me. I used to build him with Nashors and Guinsoo's into tank, was so fun.

Starboyˇ1 votes

I've played against xin in like 5/8 games lol it doesn't feel random. XIn and sivir in every fucking game T.T

Dildo Schwagins1 votes

its because people have aram accounts and are using them for urf

Zero Drive1 votes

Not even playing ARURF. I like to play my Blitzcrank Ekko Jayce Velkoz Zilean and if they can't respect that I'll just boycott the game mode.

Also RIP: Galio tanking nexus turrets because the lasers actually healed him with old shield.

Cavesloth1 votes

Oh yeah, old galio was tons of fun in URF. So was old Sejuani. Most people didn't realize how powerful she was because they were too busy picking the "meta" picks. But once she hit 6 she was an unstoppable cc machine. Not like the garbage she is now.

LapisKnightS1 votes

this is why I want urf in custom, same with cosmic rift, blood moon, ect. it'll be so much more fun Me: "wanna know what we need?" A friend: "what" Me: "urf in custom" Friend: "Hire this guy"

Tormentula1 votes

If they want to keep AR urf, yes they really need to let us use customs urf for the sake of old times.

Other game modes, nah imo. There would be no one queueing up in rotating game modes and they would just play a healthy gamemode in customs once a month and never look back. ARURF could be for those that like ARURF's format, regular urf could be a customs option for everybody else.

Tails90161 votes

Gets Aatrox "Oh hell no I haven't played this guy since he was good... in bronze"

Rerolls, gets Ashe

" I'm not doing this unless I go full ap, I'll just reroll"

rerolls, gets Janna

".......................................... My old main can't even save me in this mode"

wiggywonka1 votes

stop complaining if u don't want to play it just don't play it you entitle fuk

GVaron221181 votes

ARURF is trash. i loved regular urf, whether loose or win it was really fun because you could play the champ you wanted regardless. it all went to hell when people started complaining about the meta and op champs and balance. urf was never meant to be balanced and its not a game mode for everyone. you cant really blame riot games for making it random because they just trying to please everyone but you can never please everyone. what should have they done? 10 bans. it was that simple. keep it the same just give each team 5 bans like in summ rift. Instead they went to extreme and made it random. my personal experience so far, well like most people. i get the same 4 or 5 champs over and over. never the ones i wanna play with and it really just sucked all the enjoyment that i used to have playing urf. I would play urf again (and lol for that matter) if riot would bring regular urf back but we all know that's not gonna happen. lol will follow the course any game is destined for and that's to die at some point.

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