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Official ADC Appreciation Thread

JaJankenGuu··4 votes·498 views

Tired of your supports giving you a bad wrap?

Are you one of the decent Vayne ADCs and want people to appreciate you?

Tired of people talking down the nuanced skill it takes to be a good and reliable adc and them over-simplifying it as "right-clicking"?

Then come on in! You're safe here!

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Unlucky472 votes

Well if all the adcs in the game weren't broken as hell, this might be a good thread

Slythion1 votes

except it's really only a few outliers:

Vayne Twitch Caitlyn with a side of Jhin

a lot of the current adc's are kinda of sucking because these 4 crowd them out. Examples:

Lucian Tristana Sivir Ashe and everyone's favorite champion that was guttered: Kalista (although she has a plethora of problems outside of the classic "other adcs are better" excuse)

Unlucky471 votes

Honestly I think sivir and tristana may be the only truly balanced adcs. Kalista is extremely broken. Her win rates low for people that don't play her, but experienced kalista players have a 70% win rate according to champion.gg.

Slythion1 votes

I agree with you, and would even argue to include Ashe. These are some amazingly balanced adcs, their only problem is that other adc's are so much better (see examples above).

As for Kalista, I'd be more careful with the statistics. Here's why:

Her "average winrate" is trash which isn't always a good excuse to claim that a champion is guttered. They could be difficult to play or simply be out of meta at the moment, both things could be an excuse for why new players do poorly and drag the average win rate down.

But on the other end of the spectrum is that her "experienced player winrate" isn't always reliable either. With unpopular champions especially, those "dedicated players" stats often only include a few games and/or only a few players. For Kalista as an example, there have only been nine games played as her in Master rank. 9 games...that's an incredibly small sample size higher elo (which also suggests that she isn't in a good spot, if she isn't being played at all in higher elos).

According to Champion.gg, only 9.59% of her 2.44% win rate are from players with 125+ games as her. That means that out of 1000 kalista games in plat+ elo, only about 96 are from experienced players. And to find 1000 kalista games, you'd need to look through nearly 41 thousand games.

TL;DR : she is almost never played and so to judge her power level from a small fraction of her already tiny play rate would be based off an incredibly low sample size, resulting in unreliable data. Riot released a statement recently (i could probably find the link if you wanted) talking about kalista and why they have to keep her in a bad spot at the moment.

Unlucky471 votes

Yeah that makes sense. Experienced kalista players make her seem really strong still. And I read the statement. Kind of like the reason they reworked rengar. I just hope they do better with kalista because I still think rengars a problem.

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