Anti-Mage Meta?

Dethkilr·5/28/2015, 7:05:22 PM·4 votes·537 views

So with the mana changes a while back that was an all-around nerf to mana using champs, and an indirect buff to champs that don't use mana or have some kind of inherent mana regeneration such as Cho'gath or Xerath for the laning phase, I feel like mages are being permanently pushed out of lane. I thought the mana changes before were hard, but now these changes to the masteries have really hurt my laning. Yes, and extra 3 mana regen per 5 really does help. It takes 125 seconds to regen 75 mana with only a 3 regen increase from the mastery. In addition, the mana changes that make items increase your regen based on your Base mana regen means that with less base mana regen the items are additionally less efficient.

Tl;dr Laning as a mage will rely much more on autoattacks because because using 3 spellcasts will make them go oom without any way to regen. Zed mid ftw.

9 Comments

SlytherinUmbreon5/28/2015, 7:42:05 PM4 votes

But how can Anti-mages be strong if there are no Mages? check mate, Atheists

1000angrybees5/28/2015, 7:11:47 PM3 votes

I'd rather stop playing than face zed all the time.

The Bearded Bard5/28/2015, 8:14:59 PM3 votes

I never really invested in the mp5 mastery anyway. I think you're reading into this too much. Maybe adapt your style instead of giving up on mages completely.

LoLKiru5/28/2015, 7:23:45 PM1 votes

Malzahar

OT: I'd imagine it will definitely affect some champions, but I don't think it will be absolutely crazy.

Lux for instance basically gets a free E every 2 minutes (assuming she leaves it at rank 1 for whatever reason), every 4 minutes if its at rank 5.

Edit: Thinking about it more, wouldn't this be better for most mages anyway?

21/0/9 now gives you +75 base mana, which is (usually) an extra spell early game, whereas to regenerate that amount of mana, it would take around 2 minutes.

Erockandroll5/28/2015, 7:52:47 PM1 votes

I feel like their are shaping Mage's power spikes more towards the mid game. Yes they nerfed their Mana regen a bit. But I have found that this does not push them out of lane. (especially when you still have blue buff.) But they also Have Luden's working for them. So they get more power to their poke and wave clear, without being mindlessly endless wave clear. (which they will become anyway in the late game.)

F.Y.I My last two midlane game were with Liss and Ziggs, And I had no problems using these champs in lane.

BluePolarizer5/28/2015, 8:02:38 PM1 votes

lol anti mage meta? how about the anti melee meta for 2 seasons

Drunk Rummate5/28/2015, 8:05:38 PM1 votes

It's 3 MP5. That's 36 mana over 1 minute (60 seconds). Not even enough to cast a basic ability unless you're an Ezreal.

You'll be fine kids. Take 9 defensive masteries and you'll be surprised at how easy it is to survive those big scary assassins.

7ha7guy7775/28/2015, 7:34:58 PM1 votes

Isn't athene's missing mana regen a tiny bit better with the extra 75 mana? Obviously the 100% base portion is slightly worse so it pretty much evens out. If mages that auto often and have built in regen/refunds are on the ryze, then malz might be seeing a lot more play