New Cassiopia...

Unfortunate Game·May 6, 2016·7 votes·447 views

She feels extremely bad/awkward. I actually preferred the older one.

You literally need to press q, and then wait .5-1 second before shooting out your e's to do its real damage. It's really hard to see whose poisoned and if youll be doing your maximum damage with E on someone in a clunked up team fight. Her E is now instantaneous as oppose to a slight delay which i thought was really useful in order to do her combo well. Her W is one of the most awkward spells out there. (Cant shoot over walls, only shoots horizontally, not diagonally, etc.)

Her passive is just so awkward right now. I run move speed quints and swiftness boots and yet everyone out there is faster than me. I think thats just super lame, but not much I can say.

My suggestion.

If theyre poisoned E (Twin Fang) goes on original .75 CD, if theyre not poisoned it goes on a 1.5-2 second cool down and bring back that delay, please.

15 Comments

MotrColtMay 6, 20165 votes

The thing is many people were asking for riot to buff her poisons because they felt like they did little damage, Riot would always respond by saying if they made her more poison based they would have to take other things away, but they kept asking anyways.

Now that Riot made the change, I think people for the most part realize that her E resets and AP adc playstyle were what made her unique.

I for one was always a fan of the previous cassiopeia and I too hope they revert the changes, not because I think she is super weak atm, but because of that unique mage play style you don't find anywhere else. Doubt it will happen though

Unfortunate GameMay 6, 20162 votes

I wish as well. She truly was unique, hmm.

And its not that she's weak or strong now, I think she still puts out insane burst its just she feels beyond awkward to play as oppose to the old one which I loved.

Bobloser3555May 6, 20162 votes

agree with you guys, I want the E spam back.

The Queen ViperMay 6, 20161 votes

And with 30% CDR you can.

Now she scales with CDR instead of that "time-gated" passive we had.

Bobloser3555May 6, 20162 votes

It's not the same, I liked the old way better: if enemy isn't poisoned her E has a 4 sec cooldown or 0.5 sec if the enemy is poisoned, this makes her more risky and exciting to play.

Dominick DestineMay 6, 20161 votes

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She truly was unique

Yeah, uniquely garbage.

She had an atrocious win-rate/play rate and consistently underperformed. She was one of the bottom 3 worst characters in the game.

The Queen ViperMay 6, 20161 votes

Nah... she wasn't that bad, but she had many many bad match ups which then made her more of a niche pick. She's considered to be a good pick into Viktor, Ryze and Lissandra.

Faker himself has played Cass around 6 to 8 times and is still "undefeated" with her, like with Riven.

Also Faker played Cass in the last game of LCK spring finals against ROX, and his 4 man ult won the game for them.

Dominick DestineMay 6, 20161 votes

None of that is relevant , nor does it contradict anything I said.

What is statistical significance for 500 Alex

The Queen ViperMay 6, 20161 votes

If it's good for pro players ... then plebs just need to git gud.

Dominick DestineMay 6, 20161 votes

[{quoted}](name=Snake on bush,realm=EUW,application-id=3ErqAdtq,discussion-id=ktVbTJBa,comment-id=000000000001000000000000,timestamp=2016-05-06T19:43:53.632+0000)

If it's good for pro players

A few very rare instances does not make a good argument and very much does not contradict statistical significance.

Epic fail. New Cass, whatever you may think of her, is infinitely superior to Trash Cass (aka old Cass).

The Queen ViperMay 6, 20161 votes

New Cass is not finished yet, she's still WIP.

They released her undertuned on purpose, but yes, she will be better.

Dominick DestineMay 6, 20161 votes

[{quoted}](name=Snake on bush,realm=EUW,application-id=3ErqAdtq,discussion-id=ktVbTJBa,comment-id=00000000000100000000000000000000,timestamp=2016-05-06T21:43:10.260+0000)

New Cass is not finished yet, she's still WIP.

They released her undertuned on purpose, but yes, she will be better.

She's still performing better than old Cass.

The Queen ViperMay 6, 20161 votes

And I agree.

I never said that the Stashu Cass was somehow better since it wasn't. I just said that it wasn't THAT bad, still viable ... but yes, the new Cass will be way better.

The Queen ViperMay 6, 20163 votes

She is still WIP.

They will hotfix her E soon and additional changes will come in 6.10 patch.

https://dd.reddit.com/r/CassiopeiaMains/comments/4i2jgn/riotrepertoirs_post_about_the_possible_upcoming/

Unfortunate GameMay 6, 20161 votes

thanks. Didnt know this.