Request: Put Greivous Wounds on Oblivion Orb

ReelBigDan·2/23/2020, 3:42:18 AM·1 votes·1,844 views

I've been thinking about this for quite a bit now: Tanks have a fairly inexpensive answer to sustain-heavy comps in item 3076 Bramble Vest AD damage dealers have a VERY inexpensive answer to sustain-heavy comps in item 3123 Executioner's Calling AP damage dealers' only answer to sustain-heavy comps is the 3300 golditem 3165 Morellonicon One of these things is not like the others...

Considering support builds have been opening up, and Conqueror and Aatrox aren't going anywhere, I propose a change to Morello's. Simply put give the Grievous Wounds passive to the item 3916 Oblivion Orb component in exchange for the spell pen passive. I feel like it would be a fairly neutral change (open to stat and gold adjustments either way) that would give AP champions, especially supports, more parity as to which classes can access Grievous Wounds.

I am aware of concerns with this approach. Mages in mid already have big power spikes and being able to counter sustain at only 1600 may change the way matchups work in that lane, but I think with enough tweaks the benefits outweigh the costs. I firmly believe that supports should have access to the same level of counter play that AD and tank champions have while sustain is such a prevalent part of the game, and 3300 is too steep a cost for that. In a bad matchup the tower would be lost and laning phase over before a support could spend that much gold. 1600 is a more palatable number even if it is a higher cost than 800 or 1000.

So in conclusion, I'd like to see Grievous Wounds given to Oblivion Orb instead of having to wait on Morellonomicon for an anti-sustain AP item. If you agree/disagree for any reason go ahead and let me know.

7 Comments

Saezio2/23/2020, 4:17:28 AM6 votes

I think it would be reasonable to remove the pen from orb and make it 1400g with GW on it. Leave morello as is.

Xanthas Silver2/23/2020, 3:51:59 AM3 votes

I agree with this post whole heartedly. Considering how hard the current Sustain Meta can snowball right now, more options to cut all the healing going around is sorely needed. Every non Botlane Auto attacker is taking Conquers right now, meaning they win every prolonged fight just by virtue of healing. Combine this with boost to healing supports (Senna Soraka Sona ) it just means the mages won't have a good answer for all the healing until late game. Giving item 3916 greivious wounds just lets them deal with the midlaners who can heal too much without worry cough Akali cough cough

HalexUwU2/23/2020, 3:52:06 AM2 votes

I don't hate it? I'd really like for OB orb to be added to other item pathways, maybe a support item? It'd have to pretty much only be for gervious wounds if it was though,

Soft Mist2/23/2020, 4:12:33 AM1 votes

executioners calling costs 800 gold and gives 15 ad. a long sword costs 350 and gives 10 ad, not once have you or i ever seen someone rush a executioners calling, and bramble vest, someone has to choose to attack you to have the effect apply

why do you need healing reduction 8 minutes into the game? a good mid laner can get 3300 gold by 15 minutes every game just by csing