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Why Solo Queued Team Players are Hurting in Dynamic Queue

Mr Walrus221v··25 votes·1,813 views

Primary Support Players: Being a primary support player and being good at it will by far be the best way to climb in dynamic queue due to the grossly imbalanced amount of players in the role. You will get your primary role 80-90% of the time you queue for it.

Secondary Support Players: This SUCKS. Currently my situation is wanting to primarily jungle with my secondary as support. Essentially I'm forced to support in 80-90% of games which means I only get to play my best role in 10-20% of games. I'm basically forced to make support my primary role or make top/mid/adc my second best role. Having support as your second best role is going to hurt you more than anything else.

Fill Players: Everyone knows that the "fill" option is basically an abbreviated word for support. In past seasons I could adapt throughout champion select picking x lane because of y laner that i could counter with z laner. Now we are stuck into one role and even though they have 4 melee champions and I'm a good enough janna player I am now stuck picking my lane or begging the other person to switch out of their preferred role in order to play another lane.

These are the most extreme examples but there are less noticeable differences between the other roles as well. Dynamic queue will always favor certain roles and preferences and it can't be avoided under the current system.

Additional Note: Adaptability and Team comp focus is taking a huge hit. People will often join ranked queue dead set on playing 2 champions, one for each role they select. Many times they will not change their pick to synergize or to counter leading to many games with only damage carries in every role because there is no feeling of "Okay top isn't my greatest role I will pick a high utility safe pick and wait for teamfights." Everyone is overly confident in their ability to carry the entire game on their own leading to chaotic games with much less cooperation.

Unanswered Prayer: Please bring back the old queue.

14 Comments

Mr Walrus221v3 votes

It's got nothing to do with itemization it's champ select that's the issue.

Awoof4 votes

By the way, dynamic queue and the new champ select are two separate things. You're not really talking about dynamic I think.

Mr Walrus221v1 votes

Yeah, you're right I should have made a better distinction. I guess I was just trying to bring to light some lesser known problems with the system. Dynamic queue still has the obvious problems of solo players being thrown into games with 3 or 4 people communicating on both sides leaving them alienated. The shared ranking system means people can be boosted as a party then queue up solo and be outclassed completely. The whole system is flawed but yes, my examples were about the champion select issue so I apologize for using dynamic and champ select interchangeably.

I appreciate the support this is seeing. Maybe by some miracle this post will gain more momentum. We have to explain to riot why the system is unfair with evidence. At the end of the day this game is at heart a competitive game and it will likely dwindle in numbers if that aspect is lost.

High52 votes

Spot on. Logged in just to upvote this.

Won't change anything, but great post. Loved the old draft. This is exactly what drove me from the game. It's a dumbed down selection process and doesn't work.

Riot should just remove the current draft. It's a defecto team builder for the stupid and lazy.

Mandang02 votes

To be fair, yours is a problem with the new champ select, which is independent from dynamic queue.

Smitemuffin1 votes

Half of this is only a problem because support itemization is awful unless you can go FQC>Luden's

pulledchicken1 votes

dude support items aint monotony. stop bastardize mah boy!

Smitemuffin1 votes

I didn't say they were monotonous. I said they were awful

pulledchicken2 votes

they aint awful LMAO. u aint got game thats all.

BluePolarizer7 votes

I'm a season 5 support secondary and don't care about support itemization. they can give supports free rabadons every game for all I care, I'm still not gonna play support if it's every single game despite putting jungle primary or if I'm supporting a toxic 4stack.

Finders Keepers1 votes

They don't care. They moved the server space to weekend rotations. https://www.reddit.com/r/leagueoflegends/comments/4dwkar/official_riot_temporarily_put_a_hold_on_solo/

Saltiest Yordle1 votes

Nothing is funner than going Mid and killing the enemy mid laner only to have his entire Duo to show up and destroy you. All why being bm.

So....much....fuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuun [slayer-jinx-wink]

Spoofghoul1 votes

well to be honest i dont play any ranked anymore since dynamic queue

But it hink what you are talking about is the new champ select

and im totally fine with that one i encounter none of the issues and i actually quite often swap positions with people not everyone always wants to switch but i can swap to mid from support position then have mid go top and the toplaner go duo bot with his buddy for example.

i find people are often willing to change positions. and if i already got 3 carries ill just pick sion mid because there aint no rule against tanks mid.

now i do agree with some of your other grievances with the new system

There is an imbalance of supports and having fill or support as secondary will pretty much 90% of the time put you into support. I think this needs to be adressed asap because it hurts the support pool because players who dont mind supportin a quarter of their games will now never select it anymore. And so there will be less support players overall making the issue worse. Its the same deal with fill.

Another thing which makes for support imbalance is the 4 carries + support you see everywhere these days. assassins jungle mid or top adc bot sometimes a mage somewhere or more adc's

Teamfights will suck ass because none of them can frontline. If the one of the enemy carries starts a snowball then yours is essentially useless for the rest of the game because building defense on an assassin or adc is often not very ideal outside of the maw or steraks you sometimes see, but chances are the other guy gets it fiurst outdamagin and outtanking you.

Supporting such a volatile game is complete garbage as you will always be down in levels and gold and every single one of your opponents is out to get your ass you are the easiest target. This makes warding difficult especially because nobody ever helps with the vision game because cs and kills are more importants . . . and then in fights all 4 of them need protection ?¿?¿?¿ really and now theya re btiching about not being peeled enough?¿?¿ these guys for real what diud they expect picking 4 carries.

The only way that works is by snowballing which is leading ot incredibly lopsided games and about half of mine are ending in openmids by 10 minutes becuase some guys were feeding and decided its done

you almost never have any real impact in such games as a support which makes it possibly the most boring role atm

So thats another reason why many people dont want to support.

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