Why Riot just why????
why nerf ashe ????
why nerf ashe ????
Ashe, Sivir, and Jhin are the strongest ADCs currently.
They are also most picked ADCs in pro-play.
I disagree strongly.
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with what?
Ashe isn't weak; Ashe doesn't need a buff; Ashe deserves a nerf.
tbh Riot should just leave Ashe alone. She's an immobile ADC, a simple meta shift is enough to swiftly deal with her.
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tbh Riot should just leave Ashe alone. She's an immobile ADC, a simple meta shift is enough to swiftly deal with her.
She has a high impact ultimate (which they're nerfing the damage of and not the CC or anything) and they're only taking 1 second off of her Q, which can still be brought back up very quickly after it expires. It works on turrets, Runaans. IUNNO MAN :P
53% winrate, 23% playrate, 56% winrate in LCS matches.
Now tell me again why on earth did you think Ashe needs buff in any sort of way.....?
Is this a troll thread?
Honestly, she deserves neither. She's doing fine how she is.
Tbh its not even that big of a nerf, her early game will be weaker but I think she will still be highly valued adc.
the nerf only really affects her early game, as her dps will still be sky high late game, even with a 1 second drop off on her q, and her ult damage is the same late game, so i think the nerf is fine, its not gonna make her unplayable and its not a buff to send her to the top of the meta, where she is already. her winrate will probably be the same anyways, its not like they are nerfing the damage on her volley by 20 damage at max rank
the damage reduction on her arrow really doesn't mean anything. it's not used for the damage 90% of the time, it's used for the utility. 1 less second on her Q though is a huge hit, which she did need.
Ashe's ult is aoe btw... just saying
base max damage is
750 / 1275 / 1800
cutting down on ambient power is a common way riot begins its iterative changes to champions. This IS the PBE correct?
It's a single target stun which applies a slow to nearby enemies. Also where on Earth did you get those base damages from?
it also deals damage to nearby champions
evidence
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MUo3htU8CX4
note that this video is just meant to prove that it is in fact an aoe ability that can potentially do up to 3x damage (50% to all other targets)
Well I already knew it dealt 50% damage to nearby targets but to me the damage was always negligible as opposed to the CC applied. I see what you mean though by maximum amount of damage but at the same time I feel that stating that is misleading on how strong the skill actually is.
Its only misleading if you never look at anything from a design perspective. What riot is doing right now could be called "trimming the fat"
you get rid of little advantages nobody will really miss all that much while retaining the basic feel and maybe even evening out some numbers for calculations. If they are still strong after you can adjust them or maybe you'll need to go all the way and fully rebalance them. But first you gotta see, using a certain methodology, whether or not its actually that big a problem or if its just a build up of hard to notice advantages
Ashe doesn't need a buff. She is, in fact, one of the best ADCs right now.
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Wait, you're serious?
Then you're either delusional or playing with/against bad Ashe players. Like, all the time.