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lostbob1176 votes

Ashe, Sivir, and Jhin are the strongest ADCs currently.

They are also most picked ADCs in pro-play.

ModWuks5 votes

I disagree strongly.

FeeNeeX1 votes

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I disagree strongly.

with what?

ModWuks3 votes

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with what?

Ashe isn't weak; Ashe doesn't need a buff; Ashe deserves a nerf.

ABlueQuaker1 votes

tbh Riot should just leave Ashe alone. She's an immobile ADC, a simple meta shift is enough to swiftly deal with her.

ModWuks3 votes

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tbh Riot should just leave Ashe alone. She's an immobile ADC, a simple meta shift is enough to swiftly deal with her.

She has a high impact ultimate (which they're nerfing the damage of and not the CC or anything) and they're only taking 1 second off of her Q, which can still be brought back up very quickly after it expires. It works on turrets, Runaans. IUNNO MAN :P

BeatzBoyFTW4 votes

53% winrate, 23% playrate, 56% winrate in LCS matches.

Now tell me again why on earth did you think Ashe needs buff in any sort of way.....?

xXxAltaïrrxXx1 votes

Is this a troll thread?

JayHog19921 votes

Honestly, she deserves neither. She's doing fine how she is.

CrazFight 1 votes

Tbh its not even that big of a nerf, her early game will be weaker but I think she will still be highly valued adc.

EUW is pepega1 votes

the nerf only really affects her early game, as her dps will still be sky high late game, even with a 1 second drop off on her q, and her ult damage is the same late game, so i think the nerf is fine, its not gonna make her unplayable and its not a buff to send her to the top of the meta, where she is already. her winrate will probably be the same anyways, its not like they are nerfing the damage on her volley by 20 damage at max rank

Dynikus1 votes

the damage reduction on her arrow really doesn't mean anything. it's not used for the damage 90% of the time, it's used for the utility. 1 less second on her Q though is a huge hit, which she did need.

CerealBoxOfDoom1 votes

Ashe's ult is aoe btw... just saying

base max damage is

750 / 1275 / 1800

cutting down on ambient power is a common way riot begins its iterative changes to champions. This IS the PBE correct?

Requiemsfire1 votes

It's a single target stun which applies a slow to nearby enemies. Also where on Earth did you get those base damages from?

CerealBoxOfDoom2 votes

it also deals damage to nearby champions

evidence

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MUo3htU8CX4

note that this video is just meant to prove that it is in fact an aoe ability that can potentially do up to 3x damage (50% to all other targets)

Requiemsfire1 votes

Well I already knew it dealt 50% damage to nearby targets but to me the damage was always negligible as opposed to the CC applied. I see what you mean though by maximum amount of damage but at the same time I feel that stating that is misleading on how strong the skill actually is.

CerealBoxOfDoom1 votes

Its only misleading if you never look at anything from a design perspective. What riot is doing right now could be called "trimming the fat"

you get rid of little advantages nobody will really miss all that much while retaining the basic feel and maybe even evening out some numbers for calculations. If they are still strong after you can adjust them or maybe you'll need to go all the way and fully rebalance them. But first you gotta see, using a certain methodology, whether or not its actually that big a problem or if its just a build up of hard to notice advantages

Meep Man1 votes

Ashe doesn't need a buff. She is, in fact, one of the best ADCs right now.

ProfDrDeath1 votes

AHHHHHHHHHHHHHHAAAAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA.

Wait, you're serious?

Then you're either delusional or playing with/against bad Ashe players. Like, all the time.

FeeNeeX1 votes

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AHHHHHHHHHHHHHHAAAAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA.

Wait, you're serious?

Then you're either delusional or playing with/against bad Ashe players. Like, all the time.

am in fuucking bronze bro what do you expect :)

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