I swear to god, veigar is getting called op now

Lampsundae·9/30/2015, 3:14:59 AM·69 votes·6,362 views

I never thought I'd see the day where my old main became cried about again, especially after the nerfs. Buy merc boots, win lane against veigar. You did it, now go free, and use this knowledge I have given you to complete your bronze 4 promos!

99 Comments

Silents4299/30/2015, 5:19:31 AM18 votes

After his followup changes he was strong, all that's changed is people got the stick out of there ass and started playing him or against him with an open mind and realized he is fine.

Overpowered is a long shot though.

BeMyFriendPlease9/30/2015, 3:40:18 AM15 votes

How to counter veigar: Beat his ass for the first 30 minutes so he doesn't even break 100 cs.

Use your gold advantage to buy item 3102

Enjoy freelo.

Eedat9/30/2015, 5:26:59 AM6 votes

The problem is that a good Veigar wont blind pick him. Also the list of champions that counter Veigar is very small compared to the list of champions that he counters

Veigar counters: Malzahar Annie Lux

Malzahar is pretty much the only hard counter and is much less useful late game. Lux and Annie are barely soft counters for lane, but they can't even breath near him after 30 minutes

Champs that Veigar counters: Azir Vladimir Jayce Swain Lulu Lissandra Viktor Kassadin Leblanc Chogath Anivia Yasuo Ekko Velkoz Syndra Morgana Ahri

Here's the fundamental flaw with Veigar's kit. Say you are playing an AP champion against him and you kill him once or twice early. You go back and buy an AP item. Your reward for beating Veigar is that you actually give him more damage. Not just a little bit of damage. 80% of your own AP as damage. Not that he even needs that ratio on his ult. He can easily blow up AD champions in a single spell rotation as well

It reminds me of complaints about Garen from the juggernaut update. You kill him in lane and he gets rewarded by that by blowing you up with his massive true damage ult when he gets back to lane. It's that being rewarded for doing poorly mechanic that people hate

His Q got buffed so now he can stack 2 minions per Q. Its pretty easy to get a free 200 AP by 20 minutes on him

In case you were wondering my source: http://champion.gg/champion/Veigar

GrReaper969/30/2015, 12:21:27 PM4 votes

Remember when veigar could 1 shot you with DFG + R? Pepperidge farm remembers.

Borbland9/30/2015, 8:40:44 AM3 votes

To counter Veigar:

Play Yasuo. If he tries to lasthit the big cannon creep, place your wall. Nothing, just nothing is more frustrating to see 2 bonus AP gone because Yasuo farted in the right direction.

RexZor9/30/2015, 3:16:29 AM3 votes

He isnt that hard to counter people complain about stuff they don't understand.

hashtagPENTA9/30/2015, 3:18:25 AM3 votes

When you're Veigar... Farm Q, get 50k AP, oneshot enemy team.

MLDzXnRRR9/30/2015, 9:38:50 AM2 votes

Who cries that veigar is op? Never seen such people.

Kitten of Evil9/30/2015, 4:09:51 PM2 votes

He and Lux got some needed consistency buffs that, yes, made them stronger. But both of them are insanely squishy and completely immobile.

Immobility is a weakness. These champions should be strong, because positioning is key -- they can't get out of trouble if they overextend or get caught out.

ApexInTheCircle9/30/2015, 8:24:47 PM2 votes

Veigar Choreographs his intentions blatantly. You can tell when he's trying to land a stun on you. You can tell when he's trying to position himself for a kill. If you can't pick up on these BLATANT ques then you need to really think about how you play the game in general.

GankLord9/30/2015, 6:10:34 AM2 votes

Lol now you know how annie feels XD I said the exact same thing I never though I'd see the day when people would actually complain about annie.

A Liberal9/30/2015, 4:51:41 AM2 votes

Its mindblowing that nerf veigar plz can coexist with the Veigar compensation buffsVeigar meme

Wyvernon10/1/2015, 9:54:52 PM1 votes

Honestly, if exiting the AoE is too dangerous, you can just stay in the ring and run around like an idiot for a good chance of evading at least one of his skillshots. Also, Veigars tend to feel safe once you're "ringed". Close range mages (looking at you Ahri ) can just flash over the wall and take him by surprise for a kill.

CoolKnightST9/30/2015, 1:12:59 PM1 votes

Veigar always was anyoing with the oneshot no counterplay. However he seem to be lackluster in any other situation. He's fine right now.

SociopathFriend9/30/2015, 1:39:36 PM1 votes

item 3102 You get to ignore one of his spells. item 3026 You can survive all of his spells. item 3140 You can get out of his stun. item 3060 You can make his life hell.

There's ways around the Veigar- utilize them.

Lugg9/30/2015, 3:39:45 PM1 votes

Agreed. He is in a very good spot now. Hopefully he won't be touched again.

Riot just needs to balance the other mids around him.

The Ecdysiast9/30/2015, 4:24:14 PM1 votes

You know... Past rank 2, mercury treads don't reduce it enough to overcome the cast time of the W.

His Goatliness9/30/2015, 11:51:57 PM1 votes

Calling Veigar op is not ok. Not only is he sub-par the way he currently is, he's only really able to take out 1 person in a teamfight, if the enemies he's facing are good. If they all stand under even horizon idk what to tell you though, other than it's their fault.

1000angrybees10/1/2015, 2:37:35 AM1 votes

I swear, it went from absolutely stomping their feet at Ahri to throwing a tantrum because of veigar. The bandwagon effect is so real on these boards.

DogIsGod10/1/2015, 2:52:05 PM1 votes

Yes. I will play Ahri and rush banshee+mercs kappa.

Hard4Hamsters10/1/2015, 4:37:49 PM1 votes

To be fair. I play mostly ARAM, and I've thought Veigar was OP forever. Even with the E delay, it is one of the strongest ARAM abilities in the game.