Please nerf darius and morde.

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Darius and Morde are so broken it makes me cry, its not even funny anymore holy crap

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WinBoat2 votes

Darius gets countered by ranged champions at top. Also gets countered by ganks as typically the other champions got a means to escape. Also he loses some match ups against his melee counter parts like a good gnar, and Reknekton.

He does not need nerfed by any means.

Morde however... Fuck that bastard. I still don't think any champion should be nerfed tho. Some champions can just be annoying is all.

Boulderox1 votes

Every juggernaut needs nerfs minus skarner. He fell off the world. I don't understand where riots head was, they nerfed tank meta into the ground because it was "unhealthy", but here give 3 champions the ability to be naturally tanky, and do damage scalable to a carry, because they want to "reward champions that can stay in battles for long periods of time.

Garen here now you have the ability to break all rules and punish players for doing well. And here have free defenses for creeps, and keep your invincible health regen. And lets release dead mans plate on that patch, what could go wrong.

Darius.... Is it bad enough his ult reseta for a period on kill, or that it makes him broken with the passive as it buffs his potential to just roll a team alone. AND WHOS SMART IDEA was it to give him the ability to heal from planting an axe in there side, that makes 0 sense thematically, it would only make sense on aatox because his blade is fucking ALIVE.

MORDEKAISER. What did they do to you buddy, madw you either broken as hell, or useless as hell. They changed him so much I can't even get his level up because I can't trust solo laning him, and adc is so shotty... And to think im halway to rank 5 and I can't fathom trying to get him 5

WinBoat1 votes

Sorry, don't think they need nerfs. Especially Darius out of them all. So you are in essence disagreeing that he sucks against ranged top laners? Ranged tops like Lulu who is becoming a thing. A Teemo, good Ekko? Also you disagreeing that he loses to melee's like Gnar, Reknekton, and possibly Volibear who is probably the most OP tanker when it comes to 1v1 melee vs melee?

For those reasons alone, he should not be nerfed ever and his mobility sucks ass, he is slow as hell, cant escape ganks, this is a fact. As for him doing damage as adc's. That's bullshit, go bring me a stat chart because I am willing to bet you 90% of the adc's output more damage than him. They burst you down FAST, Darius does not. So yeah, adc's put out way more damage than these "juggernauts". Can we stop calling them that? They can be killed. They can be countered. It seems like Darius does lots of damage cause mainly he is fed in those games you see, or he is hitting A SQUISHY. Do you know what a squishy is? What rank are you? Are you new to gaming? A squishy is someone who will die incredibly fast just from a few hits. It's no fucking surprise a Darius, or ANYONE in this game can drop them dead. I mean it's funny cause even BARD can fuck up a squishy, supports at bot can drop them to half HP here and there. Blitzcrank can drop them dead through his entire bullshit combo.

Darius has counters, so your fault if you don't pick against it. I recommend Volibear, try him out, he's so damn OP, and under the radar it's hilarious.

As for Garen... I hate him the most, even more than Darius, even if Darius is stronger. There is nothing more than I hate than a Garen who uses pussy tactics to win the 1v1 if it's not going his way, then he becomes god and wants to 1v1 you like a man AFTER the fact he has an advantage. Garen pisses me off, his ult does way too much damage.

Anyhow, he don't need nerfed, nor does any champion. Play smart, be aware, be good, get good, look good while playing good, and you'll have no problem.

Also... Fuck Garen, and while we at it, fuck Morde and his dragon.

EDIT, trade offs between these "juggernauts" are they are slow, no mobility, slow burst, can be kited and out ranged. Adc's on the other hand have fast burst to destroy and rip through targets, got mobility.

Boulderox1 votes

Hold up, you say you hate garen with a passion for his bullshit tactics, but you say he doesn't deserve any nerfs..... Isn't that something that would entitle a nerf. His shenanigans are unbelievable in how he is able to survive when he fucking shouldn't

Secondly how bout you come off your high horse and admit you are wrong, Darius has a base damage of 55.8 and a lvl 18 base ad of 140.9

The best base stat adc Graves has base of 54.2 and at 18 is 106.9, so BASE STATS ALONE he has higher AD.

So RIGHT off the bat, Darius HAS BETTER damage than an adc, so how about YOU actually look up stats before saying someone needs to look it up.

Are you ready for some actual thought, what is the differce between them? adc worry about crit and damage, while darius worries about damage and tank, which come naturally, where as EVERY adc is item reliant.

And wait, darius has TRUE damage, the un-counterable stat, only stopped by health, but why would an adc build hp ever. and wait his passive gives him 200 bonus ad FOR FREE which makes his ult do 175 EXTRA TRUE DAMAGE ALONE, so don't go around thinking you know better than someone else.

remember when league was a game where each champion had a point where they fell off, early - mid - late, darius doesn't have that, he scales well throughout the game. But oh, an adc bursts him just as well, because item 3742item 3800 doesn't exist or anything, now tell me how an adc can burst darius faster than darius can one rotation them into the dirt and come out stronger. Kiting isn't anything if an item allows him to catch up to you and grab there ass and delete them.

And you think lulu top is a problem, IT ALWAYS WAS, before his rework, it was a problem during the tank meta she was a complete pain in the ass for any top laner.

But oh Darius is the ONLY melee champ that is countered by ranged champs, cus guess what, they are anyways. Teemo Lulu,and TwistedFate, and do you know why ekko kills you, because he outpokes you and has more safety than darius does. **But oh, look at your history, OF COURSE your defending him because he is carrying you through the game just fine. **

But PLEASE FUCKING tell me how a champion should be allowed to gain hp from planting an axe in people, HOW?

WinBoat1 votes

lol first off, I bought Darius BECAUSE OF ALL THE COMPLAINTS. Same for Riven as well, although I do love Riven tho better, much more easier with her, and she can snowball like crazy, and jungle good too. Anyhow bought Darius cause I've never struggled against one, so might as well try one out. While this account isn't 30 yet, and should be within a few games, there has been some pretty competitive close matches like that gold 5 match I got placed in somehow and end up wrecking a gold 5 with Riven jungle testing out devourer with her lol. So even close matches with Darius. I can say I don't think he's a problem. Don't care if you agree or not, and I will still say no champion in this game includes nerfs. And my match history sucks some on this account cause when you hit 20, you are dealing with lots of 30's boosting their friends, all of which got runes and gives them an advantage although you can buy them at 20, most people don't as they have probably used that Ip to purchase champions.

You think a melee can't get to a ranged champion? Any assassin will laugh at you kid. Oh but now you're just gonna say juggernauts? LOL with Riven I can come blasting through quick and get a knock up off, and the stun. Never struggle with ranged against her, and I'd label her personally more of a fighter than assassin. Tryndamere can just do his spin to win which is a pretty fucking big gap closer if I do say so myself. Also he probably has the most unfair ult in the game unable to die, so better hope you bring ignite and time it just right. Reneketon has his slices, and a stun.

Darius has no means of gap closers besides his pull which has a short range. You listed an item, or two rather that that increases movement speed, but funny because I don't see anyone level 1 through 6 with those items EVER. Wonder why? Oh because it's too early? Derp derp derp. So Darius isn't doing shit. Also lets pretend he gets these items which require him to usually be fed in order to do so, by the time that rolls around, everyone is usually around 10-11 mid game. Also lets forget about the boots ranged champs can purchase, and obviously the cc that they mostly have, and escapes. Last I checked, Darius can't avoid cc easy like a Olaf can.

As for the base damage being higher than Graves, I can't really defend that, there is a marksman patch coming out that should look at most of these marksman and tweak them. Graves has some good fast burst. So it's like a ranged assassin hitting you 20 times before you can hit them 1 time although Graves himself isn't super fast like Jinx, Tristana, and Kalista and some others is, but still gots that burst which is crazy, and his ult can blow people up. In most video games now and days, MMO's, where you have a tank, they still hit hard whether it be a templar, paladin, or whatver you want to call it. They hit hard, but attack at a slower pace. This is pretty much a fact cause name me one single video game out there where a tank doesn't destroy a squishy? There are trade offs between the classes, champions. In this case, adc is ranged, the tanks are not. It would be unfair if a tank couldn't kill a assassin or ranged all the time. ADC's have low HP pools, so don't take many hits to be killed, same for assassins.

And I know all about Ekko, that is my main, and favorite champion. Still, point was he destroys Darius top, so do lots of others. If Darius was so broken, he wouldn't lose to ANYONE. So are we gonna call Ekko broken? Last I checked, he's in a good spot right now and not as strong as he was on release. His ult may piss people off cause of the heal, and escape tool, but it's less worse than about 20 other ults I could list. I guess Lulu is broken, she stomps Darius in lane.

The problem is feeders, and unskilled players. The worlds have shown that darius can be weak, or can be strong. Take one of TSM's matches today where they played against a Darius who ended up dominating. Why did he? Because THEY HELPED Darius become fed ganking for him... TSM had a good counter pick against that too, and was initially winning the lane before the gank. Think it was the Kennon VS Darius match up where Kennon was doing decent against him before those ganks

With that said, I like Darius but not my favorite champion, I enjoy him tho, I haven't really played much tanks in any games as I've always been more of a assassin player, but always appreciated tanks, and tempted. So it's nice not to die for once easily (again takes being fed to hell so you can buy those items).

Oh and I'm not carried by Darius moron, that's an offensive thing to say. I got over 20+ champions on my other account and do well with them all, even the f2p rotation ones. Waiting til I buy some runes on this account (after Kindred comes out).

LordGeovanni1 votes

most melee characters get countered by ranged characters pokeing them its not nessicarily a counter to darius as it is a counter to melee characters

LGBTCute1 votes

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DragonShea1 votes

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OOOHHH! What a burn. I Agree.

LordGeovanni1 votes

Darius had much more damage before his reworks but he also had more mana costs. his current healing is too high it should be around 5% of hp and 1%more for every 10% of max hp he is missing or something close to that

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