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These Ornn Buffs Just Show How Much of a Joke The Balance Team Is

Jayce ADC·11/9/2018, 11:00:19 PM·7 votes·2,481 views

Ornn [Context] HP per level increased from 90 to 95 Armor per level increased from 3 to 4 Living Forge (Passive) [New Effect] "When Ornn hits level 11 any upgradable items he currently owns or buys in the future will automatically become upgraded for no cost. For the next 4 levels after 11, each level will allow Ornn to upgrade an item for an ally (max 1 per ally) at no cost. Ornn must get close to his ally and click on them, which will cause him to forge his ally's item and replace it for them when he's finished." [No updated tooltip yet!] Volcanic Rupture (Q) mana cost reduced from 55 at all ranks to 45 at all ranks

Bellows Breath (W) [Removed] No longer grants a shield on use [New] Now grants Unstoppable for the duration Duration lowered from 1 second to .75 seconds Brittle damage increased from [7% +.3% per level] to [10% + .5% per level] Cooldown changed from 17/15/13/11/9 to 14 at all ranks

Searing Charge (E) Mana cost changed from 50 at all rank to 35/40/45/50/55 Knockup duration increased from 1 second to 1.25 seconds

Call of the Forge God (R) "R1's slow now scales with the amount of time the R1 has existed for (minimum 10%)" quot;R2's knockup duration is now decreased to 50% on subsequent targets after hitting an enemy champion."

Ornns tankyness, health regen, and damage is too overloaded right now. Heres clips for you to see, decide for yourself if you think this is fair.

First clip: 6 autos, Q+E, 1 tower shots, lvl 3. Result: He loses 20% health which he heals to full in seconds. Meanwhile im at 25% health and forced to back. https://gfycat.com/PerfumedSnarlingAmericanpainthorse

Second clip: Jayce: Tp back to lane with item advantage, 16 autos, 3 Q+E, 1 Q (Hammer form), 1 W (Hammer), 1 E (Hammer). Ornn: 3 auto, 1 Q, 2 W. Leaves the Jayce at 30% health, no mana. https://gfycat.com/FreeSizzlingBronco

Theres also clips I have of ornn lvl 7 tanking 4 tower shots like its nothing. This balance team has been so bad this year I actually been making a League of Legends replica game myself. Really cant stand the decisions this team is making this season.

34 Comments

Hotarµ11/9/2018, 11:26:52 PM9 votes

clears throat

  • Jayce is bad against tanks.

  • In both of those clips that you showed, you have: no armor, barely any (if any at all) bonus health

  • In the first clip: You didn't dodge his flame breath, you didn't swap to hammer form for the increased resistances, and you didn't knock him back under tower which easily would have blown his flash or gotten the kill. Towers ramp up in damage, a level 3 Ornn would be taking lethal shots in no time. He also has armor and a Doran's shield, has been stacking grasp of the undying because you walk into his auto range, and he also properly shielded your E/Q with his W. He completely deserved to win that trade.

  • In the second clip: It's clearly the same game, so you're still at a disadvantage because of how strong you let him become. He properly shields again, then you foolishly walk into not only his auto range, but into the minion wave. Did you count the fact that you took almost 200 damage from minions? I bet you didn't. He's still stacking grasp, he's still building armor items and doing his job as a tank (Reminder: Jayce is bad against tanks) and you're making bad trades worse by walking into his wave.

  • Bonus: You also have Kleptomancy, and what I'm going to assume is Domination or Precision. In other words: Not only did he build properly against your damage type, you literally have no items against a tank with armor/health/Grasp and your runes give you no offensive keystone.

In conclusion: Ornn is obviously broken because you couldn't kill him at level 3/4. You're playing as a fighter who's bad against tanks, laning against a tank with armor against your champion who primarily does physical damage. You have no offensive keystone, no damage built, and fought him in his minion wave.

Obviously, we need to nerf Ornn (who, in his current state is statistically one of the worst fucking toplaners in the game) because Jayce, one of the most commonly picked and strongest RANGED top laners in the game has a bad early game against him.

MrFawknSunshine11/9/2018, 11:05:28 PM7 votes

jayce is bad vs tanks any ways

and jayce has no sustain

The Aggressor11/9/2018, 11:11:48 PM5 votes

Lmfao, thats Rito for you. Ornn getting a new skin soon, better buff!

MrFawknSunshine11/10/2018, 12:05:58 AM4 votes

for patch 8.21 plat + world wide top lane jayce

here is a list of the champs that counter him MonkeyKing Sion Rengar Quinn Maokai Urgot Poppy Kled Malphite Garen Lissandra

lets see that is 4 tanks, 2 tanky as fuk juggernauts , kled , liss, quinn , rengar ,wukong

https://lolalytics.com/ranked/worldwide/8.21/platinum/plus/champion/Jayce/Top/

so i love the notion that jayce is meant to counter tanks/tanky champs and he isnt bad vs them

Illabethe11/10/2018, 1:14:03 AM3 votes

First Clip: You didn't even skill him. He used his full kit on you.

Itemization: You went Klepto, had an Ancient Coin. Ornn had a Doran's Shield

Who do you think is going to sustain when you face tank with a Coin vs a Doran's shield?

Baron Barian11/9/2018, 11:55:58 PM2 votes

you must just be a bad Jayce if you keep shooting him at melee range instead of switching to your hammer for a disengage. Or you know, walk backwards?

PandaNator4311/9/2018, 11:14:01 PM2 votes

It might be a little out of line.

But if your AAs hurt Ornn any more, he wouldn't be playable top lane cuz he would never get a CS.

Stop letting him proc the brittle passive on you, you're ranged.

In the second clip, You neglect to mention 9 melee minion attacks and 3 canon minion attacks. That's really significant at level 4.

ValyrianBlade11/10/2018, 12:01:34 AM2 votes

You ignored listing that Ornn got his enhanced autos off in both clips. WTF are you doing walking into melee range against Ornn as Jayce when he has Brittle on you?

First clip you start at 70% health and end at 35%. Not 100% to 25% like you imply. Losing 35% health to a lane bully that landed everything on you including a bunch of autos is more than reasonable.

Second clip he also gets the damage from E on you when he escapes from tower. He gets his brittle auto. You tank a bunch of minions at level 4.

Both of these seem perfectly reasonable. You just aren't very good at the matchup is all. Why are you jumping in melee form against an Ornn with unstoppable again?

Jamaree11/9/2018, 11:21:54 PM1 votes

People wanted tanky tanks, deal with it.