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What the game looks like with -10% damage:

BlueSmurf2018·9/5/2018, 11:21:09 PM·5 votes·2,069 views

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uaGkPGp2OmE

Thats right! in season 3 malphites were still getting one shot with no counterplay 1:23 seconds into the match (Dyrus dies at 8:53 and starts his death at 8:49. Thats right. From what it looks like, 3 people auto attacked a malphite to death in 4 seconds WHILE HE WAS RUNNING. So some of the auto attacks even got delayed.

Turrets even fell FASTER in season 3.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=u7IfVHA6Oic

Go to around 10 minutes in and first turret falls at 5 minutes. 5 MINUTES. When damage was supposedly "lower". They buffed turrets and today they max fall at 7 minutes even with all this power creep. Because lets be real, powercreep hasnt done too much. What has it done? Made malphites die in 3 seconds instead of 4 seconds getting autoed by 3 people at once? not even one second down probably. See the problem?

#So.. Does Powercreep Exist?

YES

Yes, it very much does, but to what standard does it exist? not a very high one. Should riot nerf things? for sure. Before anyone says "but yi cant one shot me during season 3!" (actually idk he mighta been able to) remember Rengar, Zed, Talon, etc still existed and could VERY MUCH one shot squishies (and too an extent, bruisers as well) Not to mention Draven was stupid back then as well.

Basically powercreep hasnt done too much damage, everyone is too dramatic. CC creep however..

That's a whole different story..

9 Comments

The thigh guy9/6/2018, 1:10:22 AM4 votes

Damage itself isn’t the problem. It’s the fact that armor as a stat is almost worthless. Tell me, would you pay 800 gold for 20 armor? Because that’s what it is now. A chain vest gives 40 armor and is almost always cut in half.

gabetheguy9/6/2018, 1:14:36 AM1 votes

shhhhhh. you'll trigger the hivemind.

TheSingularity9/6/2018, 2:30:03 AM1 votes

Sorry but: Being hit by an entire team while CC'd: sona Q+powercord Q AA, elise Q+E (no dmg but allowed the dmg), karthus Q, noc Q, a bunch of auto attacks and an ignite+flash shouldn't kill someone at level 1? Dyrus was focused by an entire team. He was caught and deserved to die The problem currently, is that 1 champion is sufficient to do that much damage at most points in the game

The tower death isn't a fair example as it was an ADC+support vs a melee top laner, which occurs almost exclusively in pro play. You see the same thing down bot. TSM took an easy tower against a melee opponent who was on their own even faster than SKT (who still took 20 seconds to down a half health tower). You don't get anywhere near as much tower damage in casual play

Rock MD9/6/2018, 2:54:02 AM1 votes

Before anyone says "but yi cant one shot me during season 3!"

Season 3 we had Ap Yi, which hit you (assuming you were a mid, adc, or support) for 70% damage with a Q Lich Bane auto (Q had an AP ratio) and his R gave him 100% resets so if he got a single kill then he'd probably be untargetable for the rest of the fight while cleaning up your team.

Oh yeah and his AP ratio on W was through the roof (their design philosophy was give them super high AP ratios to compensate for Triforce being one of the only AP items they might buy, you can see how that worked out) and over 5 seconds his W would heal for some 2000-3000 hp while giving you 50% damage reduc.

Emerald Fang9/6/2018, 3:57:30 AM1 votes

Yes, they COULD 1-shot, but they had to use their whole kit to do so, including their ultimate, which meant they had clear windows of opportunity. Now, there's so much out-of-kit damage that Talon can W + Q + auto you at level 3 (or any level for that matter, his Q does 800+ crit damage later on), kill you within 1.5 seconds, E out of any possible ganks and guess what? He has the combo up within 10 seconds (20 if you wait for Electrocute but that's plenty of time before your laner comes back).

Beatrice falls9/6/2018, 9:46:55 AM1 votes

Try this fam

Play LB, take Sudden impact, Electrocute Go in lane, level 2, go Q + W + AA Look at the enemy's hp.

Bobloser35559/6/2018, 10:09:01 AM1 votes

there is no power creep, there is always the choice of buffing defensive stats or offensive ones, or nerf them.