Problems of people trying to get to a high rank/get out of low elo

galachini·Sep 17, 2019·1 votes·2,973 views

Hey everyone, I’m currently trying to find out how one could make the lives of players who are seriously trying to get to a high rank a lot easier ;)

Which is why I have two very simple questions:

As someone who is currently in Iron/Bronze/Silver, what are the 2 biggest issues you’re dealing with?
Regarding your personal skill level, what would you wish for more than anything else?

Thanks so much in advance - looking forward to reading your answers!

23 Comments

MarshallpKqTcSep 17, 20192 votes

People think they play perfectly but it's so far from it, they need to fix their champ pools, actually find out what theyre doing wrong and most of all. Ignore kills, i swear youd climb out of low eloi if you stop trying to join in the 4v3 thats goping on across the map, just get the tower.

Düff McWhalenSep 17, 20192 votes

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Hey everyone, I’m currently trying to find out how one could make the lives of players who are seriously trying to get to a high rank a lot easier ;)

Which is why I have two very simple questions:

As someone who is currently in Iron/Bronze/Silver, what are the 2 biggest issues you’re dealing with?

Regarding your personal skill level, what would you wish for more than anything else?

Thanks so much in advance - looking forward to reading your answers!

My two biggest issues (honestly)

I get tunnel visioned on my lane and forget to check minimap. As a Top my dueling is great, I push my lane and can zone, dive and farm but I ALWAYS get ganked and camped and kick myself because I forget to ward or forget to be scanning mini map. Coaching in this realm would be a huge help. I'd be winning my lines so much more if I could just get help with countering enemy ganks and camping....
I genuinely don't know how to "comeback" when my team is feeding. I want to know how to come back into the game and take control away from the enemy team that is getting fed off me and my team.

Regarding my personal skill level, I just want to be good enough to reach Gold 1 comfortably and then improve from there.

galachiniSep 18, 20191 votes

Thank you, that was very insightful!

Düff McWhalenSep 18, 20191 votes

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Thank you, that was very insightful!

Tips? Or were you just a fellow lowbie looking for sympathy? :P

galachiniSep 18, 20191 votes

I coach people who are serious about improving how to get to a high rank. Therefore I question them about specific problems so I can understand and help them better.

Düff McWhalenSep 18, 20191 votes

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I coach people who are serious about improving how to get to a high rank. Therefore I question them about specific problems so I can understand and help them better.

How much you charge?

galachiniSep 19, 20191 votes

It varies heavily on what your goals are, what elo you are currently in and how long you want to work together. If you are serious about this we can jump on a quick consultation call (free of course) and assess your specific situation. Then we can go from there.

SaezioSep 17, 20191 votes

I think most people don't understand that they need to stick to a handful of champions to climb efficiently and swiftly.

And also that those champions simply can't be team reliant (like tanks or supports) because you are relying on bad teams.

As for my personal skill level, I wish I could cancel auto animations like Khan :( Or sidestep like faker.

Kai GuySep 17, 20191 votes

I got my smurf to 27 today. Almost at 30 so I can ranked and walk my talk about how "true" (non ap mage) supports are just fine to climb with when played well.

I Gave the boards the opportunity to pick my champions, any one whos "impossible" to climb low Elo with.

I will make an additional Gameplay post before I start to make shure folks will be happy with how I run it. Want me to track ya down and send you an invite to that thread?

Currently its mostly enchanters and a few tanks that I will rotate thru, I will not be using any 3rd party sites to look up and cherry pick teammates, I will dodge promotional games till the MM plays catch up and skips divisions so I can get some data on what the MMR gap befor catchup to Title looks like, After that I will play standard.

End of the day I intend to stop once the account hits gold.

Going to attempt to abuse dodge to sink out of my placements because I dislike the idea of having to intentionally throw games.

SaezioSep 17, 20191 votes

I would love to follow your progress.

But I have some questions. A) What are you going to measure your progress against? Do you have any friend of similar skill level that will attempt this with carry supports? Or maybe try yourself after the reset with damage supports? B) Are you going to be building support items? Or do stuff like liandry Soraka, seraph lich bane sona or Mejai's every game? C) what is your highest rank this season? D) Are you going to use duoqueue?

Not trying to be a party pooper here, I just feel like these questions are really important.

Kai GuySep 17, 20191 votes

A. The ladder. The conversation is very frequently "you have to play hard hyper carry to climb" and " supports make no impact" "its impossible to climb as -insert champion x -"
B. Primiarly support items. I do really like souleater on champions who can benefit from the MS and AP and reward safe positioning like Raka or nami. I won't cheese lichbane or luden builds. Gonna be using item 3174 item 3109 item 3107 item 3190 item 3504 item 3050 etc. C. Gold 1. Although I did grind preseason to plat to control my starting mmr. D. No. Unless I feel bad about the impact a smurf makes on some ones promos.

SmyrageSep 18, 20191 votes

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I think most people don't understand that they need to stick to a handful of champions to climb efficiently and swiftly.

And also that those champions simply can't be team reliant (like tanks or supports) because you are relying on bad teams.

As for my personal skill level, I wish I could cancel auto animations like Khan :( Or sidestep like faker.

As a Support main, I might be biased, but due to the gamemaking potential of the TRADITIONAL supports and the fact that they can turn around a bad fight to a favourable one just means, that they can make an atrocious team work. Sure, with a really bad team you are not going to win, but right now I'd say that ADC and Jungle are the most team reliant, and maybe toplane, due to the little amount of influence that lane has. Supports can help at taking objectives and roam to mid or with the jungler if the ADC is absent. But surely you won't have too much gamemaking potential as a support, if you don't build support items, like Redemption.

Zed geniusSep 17, 20191 votes

I think the majority of low elo players think they play perfectly but their team holds them down.

Gamma SectorSep 17, 20191 votes

My biggest issue is genuinely my team. They either don't listen, don't build right, don't help during fights, or don't rotate for easy kills in the early game. The second issue is I get bored too quickly on the champs I climb with, and then decide to play ranked with other champs and do poorly.
I think my personal skill level isn't too bad, but I need to work on remembering the mathematics behind each matchup so I gamble less on early all ins.

galachiniSep 18, 20191 votes

Thanks, that was helpful. Would you say you have the ability to carry your team by yourself?

Gamma SectorSep 18, 20191 votes

absolutely not, or I wouldn't be silver. I can try my damnedest, go 15-0 Ahri mid, and somehow I'll fuck up once late game and it's all over. I understand that's my fault though.

preternaturalSep 17, 20191 votes

if you want to climb then assume that everything has a win/lose condition and you play to that. no complaining about anything, only blaming yourself.

beermanfuSep 17, 20191 votes

ADC main

Dive the carry, 16-0 nocturne, triple assassin team comps, etc. Consistency in my own game play.

Improving mental and tilt I think would have the biggest influence for me right now.

SaezioSep 17, 20191 votes

Have you tried mastering Kai'sa?

beermanfuSep 18, 20191 votes

Not sure she's the right champ for me, tried her once or twice to see what she was like, that's about it. Feels like an assassin, I'm not a playmaker style player. I'm a slow and steady positional player.

My current pool: Early/blind: Caitlyn - good with her as long as I don't screw up too badly early game Jhin - picked up recently to play into Cait or she's banned, tried Jinx/Ashe and I don't like either.

Xayah - getting better with her, but I don't feel safe picking her blind against any random comp

Ezreal - pretty good with him, the winrate says otherwise, most of the games I played with him were games I should have dodged anyway.

galachiniSep 18, 20191 votes

Thanks man, that was helpful!

5050BSSep 18, 20191 votes

Less Iron in Silver clothing on my teams
Less Plat+ Smurfs in Bronze/Silver Clothing on the enemy team
Less AFKers

Malix FarwinSep 18, 20191 votes

Most of the time its people's picks. You can tell how serious someone is by looking at their match history. If they are playing champions with very low exp on them they likely dont care about the game.

For example; Just had to dodge a game because i was support and our mid laner locked in ryze(a champion they only played 4 times this season and are 0 and 4 on them).

The problem is you will get people who actually want to win with people who do not care.