Zeal Items should be like Hextech

Ahris··5 votes·430 views

They should only be able to build one. Their unique passive does not work and only one will apply at a time. However phantom dancer will be annoying to balance, so making it so that they could only build one is only fair.

Hextech items have active and cds are shared between all 3, so it is only natural for ADC having restrictions from buying more than 1 zeal item as well.

16 Comments

Kai Guy1 votes

Reminder that Crit % will still needs crit % to function as well as AS. You have a suggestion on fixing the removal of options that provide a majority of that?

Ahris1 votes

You still have blade of ruined king + one zeal item + IE. This gives about 50% Crit and that is balanced. Crit shouldn't go to 80%, that doesn't even make sense for how strong crit is.

DeathBurst1 votes

To the contrary, Crit should go as high as possible in late game to remove the luck factor that lower amount of Crit has.

Ahris1 votes

To the contrary it should be removed because League is not a luck based game.

DeathBurst1 votes

So, OK, let's assume we remove Crit. What do you give to ADC instead, to make sure that they still have the best DPS late game?

And anyway, 80% Crit isn't involving much luck anymore, you're pretty much Criting every time, which is why you shouldn't nerf Crit to 50%, where THERE it's basically a coin flip to know if you will crit or not.

Somebody Love Me1 votes

If we remove crit, we could give ADCs a mechanic where their auto damage ramps up with each consecutive attack on the same target. That way they live up to their role of sustained DPS and don't burst squishies.

Kai Guy1 votes

My fear with his is that as we free up the additional slots Then we start to see a rise in Life steal Drain tank adcs that become inherently tanky because they must be CCed for them to be threatened. Currently the trade off for extremely high crit related damage is you lose out on defensive options and rely on teammates to provide your window to shine.

Anyhow there is a warden thread going up and id like to invite yall to head over to it. https://boards.na.leagueoflegends.com/en/c/gameplay-balance/GVyexyZR-letos-discuss-marksmen

I Stealth I1 votes

Almost all crit items come from Zeal.

Most marksmen rely on crit for their damage.

As much as I hate ADCs, this would completely ruin them

Ahris1 votes

With One zeal item and IE, they effectively have 50% crit. That was how it was seasons before the ADC item rework if I remember right.

I Stealth I1 votes

But, what about attack speed? Zeal is basically the holy grail of attack speed.

Ahris1 votes

Blade of ruined king, Hurricane, One zeal item, Bersker. That is already a ton of attack speed avalible. The zeal items are just WAY too good so we often forget other itemizations.

Berserker: 35% as Bork: 25% AS Hurricane: 40% AS Zeal Item: 30%/35%/45%

In total max with this is 145% more AS. Seems pretty fine to me. There are also other AS options like Wits End, Guinsoo, etc.

Trinity Force is also optional with: 40% AS

I Stealth I1 votes

Hurricane isn't exactly good on everyone, nor is BOTRK.

Ahris1 votes

It is not good because there are better options. In this tank meta Bork should be a MUST buy but it is avoided because Zeal items are just way better.

DeathBurst1 votes

Hurricane IS a Zeal Item... And Trinity Force too...

I Stealth I1 votes

Don't even try reasoning. You can't reason with Ahris

Colton1471 votes

Essence Reaver for another crit item. ;)

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