Hia Riot, just wondering if Mordekaiser is still going to be adjusted at some point this season. He is still sitting at a pretty abysmal winrate, as a Morde main I feel like I just let my team down if I don't snowball early. Even at high divisions of play he sits at the lowest win rates. I hope there is still some more tweaking you have in mind for him!
Malicious Metal6 votesI'm actually sitting at a 60% win rate in ranked with the big guy, but I'm only gold four at the moment, so it might get lower the higher I climb.
Still, I think he's fine in terms of damage and skill set but he desperately needs some love taps to make him feel less clunky. Ghost AI and his base defense scaling should be looked at if you ask me.
So Gnarsty3 votesDo you prefer a rush to hextech or Rys first for top lane mord?
Malicious Metal3 votesI rush Rylais and only get Gunblade as my third item. Mordekaiser is way too squishy to invest in damage early on, which is something riot could potentially address.
So Gnarsty3 votesAwesome, thanks for the input, ill be sure to change that up today when I play some more Morde. Big fan btw!
Malicious Metal4 votesNo problem, always like giving others advice how to play League's very own Iron Man.
Vexful2 votesThey effed up his rework and gave him the "impossible to balance" syndrome. Either he gets too strong or too weak. They probably won't touch him for a while.
Slamurai Jack1 votesHis winrate would go up quite a bit if people stopped trying to force him Top or Mid and just played him Bot like Riot wants them to. Of course his winrate sucks when over 90% of the people playing him refuse to use him in his inteded role.
So Gnarsty1 votesI've been having iffy luck in bot lane lately, either getting out poked too severely "thunderlords >.>" or just crushing them by snowballing heavily. Half the time my team tells me I'm trolling for taking bot Mord.
I honestly don't know what lane mord shines best in now
Slamurai Jack1 votesThe stats still say bot and have since his rework. but pretty much no one plays Morde anymore except old Morde players and they mostly refuse to play him bot.
Malicious Metal5 votesMaybe, just maybe, he isn't fun at all played in bot.
Slamurai Jack1 votesAs opposed to top or mid where he's super duper fun? Give me a break bro. It's literally the same thing, only with a support. I personally rather enjoyed Morde bot on the occasions I actually got to play it, so you don't exactly speak for everyone. But frankly, I was never that attached to him in the first place so I don't feel any particular inclination to play him top or mid like all the old Morde players want to for some reason. I honestly blame spite: you hate Riot for reworking your champion and changing his role and refuse to play him bot out of some weird sort of rebellion against the powers that be. "Maybe if we refuse to play him bot and only play him Top or Mid, then Riot will change him back!" Get real man. You're lucky they gave solo lane Morde any power back at all after openly admitting they made him a bot laner due to his toxic gameplay in a solo lane.
Stars Shaper3 votesThe matchups are totally different.
Botlane you can find 2 combination of things:
Toplane you are gettinng melee trades far more than bot and this means that your kit gets its full use and you are free to exploit your strenght instead of extrapushing a lane to sustain your shield through all the Cait/Jinx/Morgana/Sona poke and Sona/Morgana/Leona/Braum CC.
Stars Shaper2 votesMorde toplane is wonderful. Earlygame has always been his weakness but the heal on his W (now castable on minions) helps a lot so that I usually win trades and can get first blod even during a gank.
Not to mention the joy of playing him top when the enemy thinks to be cool and goes for Yasuo/Fizz/(any assassin) top and gets farmed more easily than cannon minions.
But then you need to be the team player, Morde is the character that gets most punished by solo pushes in unwarded territory. Yet once you get your second item you are a beast and if team mates are around you you can destroy the enemy team.
Vhalthoria1 votes[{quoted}](name=Stars Shaper,realm=EUW,application-id=3ErqAdtq,discussion-id=kG7E7ZrY,comment-id=00020001,timestamp=2016-02-04T17:01:56.627+0000)
Morde toplane is wonderful. Earlygame has always been his weakness but the heal on his W (now castable on minions) helps a lot so that I usually win trades and can get first blod even during a gank.
Not to mention the joy of playing him top when the enemy thinks to be cool and goes for Yasuo/Fizz/(any assassin) top and gets farmed more easily than cannon minions.
But then you need to be the team player, Morde is the character that gets most punished by solo pushes in unwarded territory. Yet once you get your second item you are a beast and if team mates are around you you can destroy the enemy team.
I disagree.
My top PreWork Morde was a beast early and a God late game.
Now he's just a tin can that needs to be checked for it's expiration date. If it is, you are fucked.
Stars Shaper1 votesHehe, I used to get lots of doublekill pre rework as Morde in midlane because ppl knew that he had weaknesses but that was the HP costs not refunded before building spellvamp.
The old Morde is not coming back unfortunally even if it was more healthy for the game. Now we got this that seems to work decently. Many Morde mains are rather succesful and we can work around his tricks. His nowday lategame doesn't match his former but it gives more the idea of the tanky dude that can screw you up. (He needs some base stats increase anyway).
Vhalthoria1 votes[{quoted}](name=Slamurai Jack,realm=NA,application-id=3ErqAdtq,discussion-id=kG7E7ZrY,comment-id=0002,timestamp=2016-02-02T23:44:16.823+0000)
His winrate would go up quite a bit if people stopped trying to force him Top or Mid and just played him Bot like Riot wants them to. Of course his winrate sucks when over 90% of the people playing him refuse to use him in his inteded role.
That's why you listen to the community. You are supposed to design around them not you because in the end the playerbase are the ones who will use and stick to whatever you come up with as a designer, not you, you will just move to the next project leaving whatever the fuck you designed.
If people are "refusing" to embrace whatever the fuck you came with then you should consider listening.
This is the problem with the rework. Was forced, they didn't listen to the playerbase's concerns, our suggestions were strictly ignored, and hence, this is what Mordekaiser has come up to be. A clusterfuck of sadness.
xl Kirito lx1 votesThank Malicious. All he's done is gotten Mordekaiser removed from viability. But, he can cast W on minions now, so thats kind of cool.
Stars Shaper1 votesJust wanted to add an info about a perk of our beloved armored revenant.
Mordekaiser's champions' ghosts (still have to test with Dragon but I think it won't work) can block Jhin's ultimate shots and I guess even his W then.
