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about supports and their scalings

FistMeTeemo··1 votes·353 views

so i was just wondering. why do supports have such high scaling on mostly ap and ad? like i understand the idea that a supp is supposed to build tanky and stuff and should be rewarded with some dmg even if they just got like 30 ap but that becomes kinda broken when they are built full ap/ad you know. imagine a blitz full ap he can one shot almost anyone for example. like why dont you give supports higher base dmg on abilities and lower the scalings? or make the scalings scale on hp/armor/mr in stead?

6 Comments

ZT Xperimentor1 votes

Because it's not fun to play a champion that can't scale.

FistMeTeemo1 votes

but a support isnt supposed to scale on ap/ad its a role where you mostly support your adc in early game and then support rest of the team in teamfight and stuff and suck up all the dmg from the enemy team

ZT Xperimentor1 votes

How do you expect a sword to succeeded when your opponent is an archer? How do you expect your archer to win when your opponent gets a gun? Everyone should scale somehow.

FistMeTeemo1 votes

yes thats true but how to you expect a champion with daggers to succeed when your opponent has tankyness

ZT Xperimentor1 votes

Why would the assassin be focusing the tank? i could understand if it's alone, but if there's anyone else around . . .

Erockandroll1 votes

Honestly their are just too many competing philosophies when it comes to supports.

No Tank support should be rewarded with Damage for building tanky. (not directly anyways) Putting that kinda damage on a tank, would push them more towards lane or Jungle, because it would allow them to farm. And because supports are gold starved they need all the defensive ratio's they can get.

Mage supports is another issue entirely, since you also have a crowd that "still wants them mid lane" In which, Higher base and lower ratios would be counter to that. That said, You can compensate lower ratios with more magic pen, and magic pen is pretty budget, and more appropriate for a support build. (meaning, it would likely make things worse)

Buy and large, higher AP, lower base exist on mage esk supports to balance between both roles. Because of the gold deficit. Riot pretty much writes off "Full AP Support" on the grounds that it "Shouldn't happen."

Another philosophy with support scaling is mini games. You get champions like Bard and thresh, who are rewarded from being the support and doing support things. And Riot doubled down on this approach with the quests on support items.

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