Garen %5 and base movement speed

Mariokiller64··1 votes·945 views

Why riot, why. Garen

Base Movement speed lowered to 340 from 345
Decisive Strike (Q) movement speed lowered to 30% from 35%

Demacian Justice (R) [The AIR client currently lists a change that is not present in-game. R's damage now listed as plus "(28/33/40% of targets health)" from "(1 damage for every 3.5/3/2.5 health missing)"]

    [NOTE: This R change seems to only be in AIR client atm and will not show in-game or on the tool tips. . Exgeniar has noted "Should be no change, just a better way of presenting the number. If I remember those numbers properly."]

WHY?

7 Comments

Terff2 votes

He's pretty broken right now.

Mariokiller641 votes

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He's pretty broken right now.

broken how?

Terff1 votes

His villain mechanic plus the new items (dead mans plate and titanic hydra) make him a tanky menace who still is able to dish out incredible damage.

Erijian1 votes

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His villain mechanic plus the new items (dead mans plate and titanic hydra) make him a tanky menace who still is able to dish out incredible damage.

Garen's always been a tanky menace who can dish out incredible damage..It's just that before the rework, all of the random scrubs who picked him up tried to build him full tank instead of building him like players are currently which resulted in zero damage output as he didn't scale well into the late game.

I agree on the nerfs to him being stupid by the way; players just need to learn to kite and Garen is a good example of why kiting is so important.

Jefftiffy1 votes

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Garen's always been a tanky menace who can dish out incredible damage..It's just that before the rework, all of the random scrubs who picked him up tried to build him full tank instead of building him like players are currently.

Yea but he was squishy being a bruiser. Where as now he builds bruiser and I watch tanks die and squishies literally can only run so long from him. Now he does a ton of damage for no real reason other than they thought he needed more.

Erijian1 votes

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Yea but he was squishy being a bruiser. Where as now he builds bruiser and I watch tanks die and squishies literally can only run so long from him. Now he does a ton of damage for no real reason other than they thought he needed more.

Garen has never once been a squishy champion. The current Garen gets around 600-800 more HP than properly built Garens before the rework, but ends up with around 60-80 less armor and magic resist since Courage doesn't scale as hard as it used to. I've noticed no difference in how long I can survive in fights as the new Garen, and long-time Garen players would probably agree on this.

The thing is that I can kill targets easier late-game than I could before; so it FEELS like I'm tankier when in all actuality they're getting less damage on me due to being dying faster.

fasega1 votes

Sadly garen isn't broken at all but people refuse to not facetank him because they are use to him being a pathetic and unviable noob champion. He actually always did a lot of damage if you built him AD like your suppose to but he is for some reason considered a tank I don't know why.

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