Former CLG Analyst "Mr.Mandalcio's" All-Inclusive Analysis of Jhin

If the numbers had told me a different story, I would've had to chronicle it. But as the facts stand, there simply isn't a strong enough case for Duskblade of Draktharr on Jhin. Ghostblade has useful applications if you can close games around or before the three item mark.

Thanks. The / issue wasn't showing up on my end (Google Slides has a nasty habit of presenting differently to different browsers), but I shrank the icons down, so hopefully that helps.

The work, is what matters.

The problem with Infinity Edge first is that 1) It has no utility, and 2) It is weak because early in the game Jhin has very low attack damage/speed. If you are going for an item build centered around Essence Reaver, BFS**-->Caulfield's-->**ER would be ideal.

Thanks so much for making these! I read them a bit after they came out because of Meanwhile in Top Lane, and boy, were they interesting. I loved your analysis of each champion, and you opened my eyes as to what an easy and a hard champion were. With these lists, I've also been able to more accurately describe champions to my rookie friend.

I'm glad you found my Champion Difficulty Guide helpful. I put a lot of hours into that one.

Also, I noticed you updated Ryze's page, but it doesn't seem like you've done work on champions that were updated during the Mid-Year Mage Update, since you don't mention stuff like Cassiopeia's grounded debuff, Zyra's better plants, or Malzahar's shield. The pages still seem current without discussing those aspects though since their kits largely remained the same. Finally, it's not big, but Malzahar's and Ryze's splashes got updated.

Did you check the errata section at the end of each presentation? I'm fully aware of all the changes, but some champions (ex. Cassiopeia, Malazhar, Vladimir) are functionally identical to previous iterations, even with a tweak here or there. Thanks for the heads-up on the champion splashes though; I'll update them now.

Because Youmuu's + Duskblade is cheaper and gives armor pen which shreds early armor/base armor of the enemy bot lane. It's intended as a snowball build. Crit build is a lot better lategame, or rather, even after the 2-item mark, ER+IE is better then GB+DB.

Because a lot of pros simply don't do the math. Phreak stated at one point that Last Whisper was a mathematically bad buy on pre-rework Corki under most circumstances but pros would still buy it pretty early. Their job is to play, they have analysts that dedicate the time to doing the math for build order and figuring out the meta.

Thanks, I'm glad you appreciate my work.

I dunno, I guess you'd have to ask them.

Have you seen how much wrong shit pros have said about new or upopular champions? They get the job because they can play, not because they can theorycraft worth a damn, although some of them can.

A pro racer is not necessarily a good mechanic.

Jhin is quite popular now, but when I originally made this guide, he was more or less untouched by professional players and not highly regarded in solo-queue. If I made a champion specific guide for Quinn, what differences would you want to see from what I did with Auteur of Death? How would you have changed things?

There is a lot of entertainment focused, low effort, or "look-a-like" League of Legends stuff out there. I enjoy teaching people about the game, and I try to distinguish my work from the rest by raising the bar for what educational content means for this game. I'm glad you noticed the work I put in, and I appreciate it.

Would you be interested in seeing anything besides a champion specific guide?

I'll quote a response I gave to someone in Summoner School.

Postulates: Level 11 Jhin, Battering Blows (7%), Sygh Style Runes (+6.75 AD, +12 ArP), Natural Talent (5/5). Curtain Call targets are assumed to be at 50% HP.

Deadly Flourish: Against a target with 50 armor GB+IE deals 277 damage, while GB+DB deals 297 damage. The difference between the two builds for this ability is 20 hit-points. For a 14 second CD, how greatly does this difference in damage dealt magnify Jhin's midgame? Would you say this difference is great enough to make or break snowballing out of control?

Curtain Call (Normal): Against a target with 50 armor GB+IE deals 256 damage, while GB+DB deals 277 damage. This is a difference of 21 damage per shot. Landing all 3 amounts for grand total of 63 extra damage. 63 is roughly 5% of Jhin's maximum health at Level 11, so not bad, right? Now we just need to weigh those gains versus our losses. For instance, is that potential 5% HP is worth losing at minimum, 12% of guaranteed DPS from our (non-four) auto-attacks? It's worth noting that a single (non-"four") auto-attack from GB+IE, on average, deals 23 more points of damage than GB+DB.

Curtain Call (Critical): GB+IE deals 639 damage at 50 armor, while GB+DB deals 555. That's a difference of 84 damage on the shot most likely to kill a target. For reference, 84 damage is 6.5% of Jhin's maximum health. Is losing that extra burst on our most lethal shot worth saving 350 gold? Is +5% more movement speed that much more likely to snowball us than the damage we lose here?

As you answer these questions for yourself, please remember that I'm not trying to pick on you individually. GB+DB is the most popular build path in the world after all. But for the right reasons? I think the evidence tells us clearly, no.

For those who would rather just see the numbers, please go check the League of Math calculation tables. I added a new section surrounded by light-blue boxes in the bottom-right; you can't miss it. Also, let me know if you catch any mistakes; I may have choreographed this affair, but I'm hardly perfect.