Riot should release a survey asking players wether they would prefer autofill or higher queue times

Sspencer·Dec 11, 2019·2 votes·1,889 views

My suggestion is to make a survey asking players who were ranked last season if they would prefer to have longer queue times and not have the chance of getting autofilled or keep the current system as well as, telling us how much the queue times would increase by rank. Personally I think that the vast majority of players across all regions and ranks would prefer no autofill. However, if it would affect high elo too much then keep autofill in for either masters+ or diamond+.

6 Comments

ParoeDec 11, 20192 votes

Have you never seen riots surveys? Theyre always loaded questions.

The question for this topic would be "Does autofill reduce queue times?" The answer is an unequivocal "yes", therefore everyone likes autofill.

MordridtheBlackDec 11, 20191 votes

we don't like autofill

we tolerate it

it is the lesser of two evils

and to the OP please, do some research on this subject there was an AskRiot awhile back that covered this topic

https://nexus.leagueoflegends.com/en-us/2017/06/ask-riot-autofilled/

tl:dr "Autofill was introduced as a last resort way of ensuring people didn’t sit in queues for ridiculously long stretches."

without autofill queue times would be, at a bare minimum 3 times what they are

and you could argue "Well just make it so players that don't want it, turn it off." Then no one has it on because no one wants to risk the chance of getting filled into a role they don't know how to play, or can't play well and thus queue times jump

ZephyrDrakeDec 11, 20191 votes

Sorry but no. "Then keep it for this group of people" so you go from always getting what you want to not getting what you want? You do know how long queue times are already in high elo right? So removing it would just make it worse. Like I already said, it would also be too jarring to suddenly not being able to get what you want the instant you reach a certain rank.

Whether people want autofill or not is 100% POINTLESS and IRRELEVANT. It is something that needs to happen since not every role is played equally, they are not even close. So all it will happen is that everyone who plays the more popular role will get increased queue times while everyone who plays the least played ones will get either increased or the same queue times as before. It will literally end up like old teambuilder where people's queue times could get up to an hour. We literally have already tried this already and the results are not going to suddenly change.

ParoeDec 11, 20191 votes

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Sorry but no. "Then keep it for this group of people" so you go from always getting what you want to not getting what you want? You do know how long queue times are already in high elo right? So removing it would just make it worse. Like I already said, it would also be too jarring to suddenly not being able to get what you want the instant you reach a certain rank.

Whether people want autofill or not is 100% POINTLESS and IRRELEVANT. It is something that needs to happen since not every role is played equally, they are not even close. So all it will happen is that everyone who plays the more popular role will get increased queue times while everyone who plays the least played ones will get either increased or the same queue times as before. It will literally end up like old teambuilder where people's queue times could get up to an hour. We literally have already tried this already and the results are not going to suddenly change.

This is a good point but not for the reasons you state. Autofill is needed in high ELO because the playerbase is spread thin in the diamond+ ELO. Prior to grandmaster riot could have solved this issue by capping MMR at diamond 1 and making masters the true "ranked" with a ranking list based on your ELO, with challenger as the top one hundred players in the region. Autofill in its current state for the current reasons is a band aid for a much bigger problem; lack of playerbase in the upper ELOs.

Of course, theres also a case to be made for hard split matchmaking between gold- and platinum+ as gold and below have the playerbase to sustain no autofill while retaining queue times. Game quality > game speed, after all. Game quality is an entirely different beast though, equally as solvable as high ELO queue times.