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Teemo nerf on PBE. Teemo Mains toughts and suggestions.

LunaticMaster·12/5/2017, 11:21:12 PM·5 votes·2,753 views

I'm really baffled on this nerf. I don't understand why Teemo is getting this, why are you nerfing his Hp growth and E poison Dot damage? Teemo now gets 4 less when he levels up and his E deals 1 damage less per second. Yeah i get it that because you removed magic resist runes, teemo's E now deals nore damage, BUT i have never before heard that the problem is the crappy and very underwhelming poison dot. Players dislike the flat bonus magic damage teemo gets for his autos from the E ability, not the Dot. Honestly the poison dot has always been bad. Low damage that can be easily countered with 1 magic resist item and some health regen or life steal / Spell vamp.

So instead of nerfing the poison dot that is not really the problem, you should instead rework Teemo's E a little. I have a suggestion on how to make the ability better and more fair. On-hit damage to 5/10/15/20/25 and (+25% AP), Than the Dot 8/16/24/32/40 (+40% AP). So i'm suggesting that you put more umph to the horrible Dot and than reduce the On-hit damage. Pretty simple. I always tought that Teemo was supposed to be the type of champ that would slowely but surely kill his targets. Teemo should not be a instant nuker, but a damage over time mage. I have no problem on reducing teemos early game damage, but i don't like it when you just nerf his stats without compensating. I hope that Teemos E's dot would be buffed, because Teemo uses poisons to attack his targets and Poison usually deals damage over time and not in an instant.

Next the the nerf to his Health per level, that is from 94 to 90. Wait why? So Riot is going to reduce Teemos hp growth? If so than why? Teemo is not known to be very tank by himself, that is if you don't buy items that give health. I usually play Teemo as little bit more tanky, so i buy items that increase his health, armor and magic resistance. Alright i deal less damage, but i can live a little bit longer in a fight. Usually players who play Teemo go full AP or On-hit with decent amount of AP. I go with Tankiness, and ap/ Magic pen. Anyway what is the reason for making teemo have less hp per level? Now he can be killed more easily obviously, but hasn't Teemo always been squishy? So why make him even more squishy? Just that when he gets caught, he has even less chance to survive. Teemo's auto attack range isn't that long either 500, so how is teemo supposed to fight with out him getting immedietly killed?

I just don't understand the reason why Teemo is getting these Nerfs. E's dot has always been weak. Why make it even weaker? Reduce his Hp growth? Why won't you ever buff or rework Teemo's W Move quickly. I feel like it actually the very bad ability. What would make it better, is that if you would remove the horrible movement speed boost from the active and passive and replace them with an active only movement speed boost that is like Draven's Blood rush ability. Giving teemo speed boost of like 50% for 1,5 sec would be a lot better ability than the Move quick Teemo now has. Maybe now Teemo could dodge an incoming ability or a Jungler / Midlaner or a Support Gank and survive?

Anyway what do you guys think about this upcoming nerf? What do you think about Teemo's E and W and what do you think about my ideas on how to rework or improve these abilities? Honestly those nerfs got me little bit spooked.

UPDATE 12/7 PBE: Teemo's AD lowered to 54 from 58. E's Poisont DOT reverted back to 6/12/18/24/30 per second. I thank you for this Riot. But maybe you could do even more? Please at least increase Teemo's E's DOT to 7/14/21/28/35. I feel like the +1 damage buff to the current E's dot would make it little bit better and it would also be a decent trade for the lowered HP growth and base damage! Please make Teemo's E's DOT a little bit better! You can revert it in the next update if it feels bad or not right to you.

Thank you Riot games, but don't stop here! You can do it! i know you can! - A Teeto main Teemo

20 Comments

Adrian is Daddy12/5/2017, 11:24:56 PM2 votes

Teemo and all the other poke champs are to strong with things like aery and scortch, thats basicly it. Lets be honest no one cares about his e DOT he's not Twitch. The 2 reasons why Teemo is hated so much is his blind and shrooms, he keeps that so he still wrecks most laners.

LF Annie12/5/2017, 11:28:31 PM2 votes

you're missing the point of the teemo nerfs entirely. riot actually likes and prefers the nuker teemo, these nerfs are to the annoying bruiser teemo's hit/kite/hit/kite that frustrates alot of players because he can actually use frozen mallet as a ranged.

Trash MammaI12/5/2017, 11:30:58 PM2 votes

Be glad they're love taps. Teemo is currently a really strong top laner atm due to the armor and magic resist being taken away, most of his dozens of build paths are viable.

LF Annie12/6/2017, 12:30:59 PM1 votes

i don't think aery really does enough early in comparrison to say, comet, where it applying off of dots a second time is really op. i think people just don't like seeing it hit them.

oComingThrough3/14/2018, 1:47:11 AM1 votes

Hey guys!! What that guy is talking about?? I left the game for like... 4 years and I came back to join the plays and still that RAT hasnt really nerfed!! Every time i play top against a teemo is a nightmare :P i mean come on... He takes precition im getting pocked to hell and back!! he picks Domination... same shit diffrent day!! Will they ever REALLY nerf that shitty champ? he has stealth, he has poke, he has movement and attack speed... what else people need from Riot?? make him a God?? #Nerf_teemo_for_god_sake!

nubulas29/28/2018, 2:59:28 AM1 votes

I play teemo enough to like him and also enough to know he will never be viable in any elo.

They don't want teemo to succeed, his role is just a test to get out of silver.

I would like to see a chap pool of about 100 that could be played in LCS or any elo. We currently have maybe 20 out of what, 150 possible? That is ridiculous.

Teemo needs a rework to put him on par with irellia and jhin and lucian and orn and zoe etc.

Q needs a faster cast time and should be an AA cancel and not cause the stutter step when cast while running. W is ok but at the max stack should proc his invisibility when active and allow moving while inv until he attacks like twitch. E can be tweaked numbers wise but should do a percentage of max health damage plus DOT and also have a dash when active like every one of those fuking annoying as shit broken as fuk champs do. R is ok but should also give him armor and MR like Jax R

Now that would be a real teemo.

I know what you all are thinking WTF????? But instead of trying to rationalize these changes riot makes, why not just ask for more broken shit? What would make your favorite champ as broken as irellia, yasou, zoe, akali?

I also think we need to change some key elements. Like the recipient clicking on Tahm Kentch to dash to him or be eaten. Too much troll shit in this game.

Ratpie9/28/2018, 3:59:45 AM1 votes

Is anybody really scared at all when they see a teemo in game? Yes he makes some peoples life miserable, but in the end he just does not add enough in team fights unless your team is dumb. I love playing him, I used to JG with him and it was really fun. He may be really annoying to lane agasint but in reality this nerf is baffling.