A Sona buff to make her viable again and a no longer a troll pick (A Sona Player)

Colton147·Dec 25, 2017·3 votes·686 views

As the title says...

is currently sitting at a 48%-51% winrate: http://champion.gg/champion/Sona/Support?league=undefined http://na.op.gg/champion/sona/statistics/support http://www.lolking.net/champions/sona#/overview

Buffs:

Q: Hymn of Valor

Mana costs decreased from 60/65/70/75/80 to 40/45/50/55/60

Staccato second bonus: Now restores 2/4/6/8/10% of 's maximum mana if she hits an enemy champion with Staccato (will still deal the bonus damage).

W: Aria of Perseverance

Heal increased from 30/50/70/90/110 to 100/125/150/175/200

Shield strength increased from 25/50/75/100/125 to 50/75/100/125/150

Mana costs decreased from 80/85/90/95/100 to 70/75/80/85/90

R: Crescendo

Stun duration increased from 1.5 seconds to 1.5/1.75/2 seconds

9 Comments

RedCycloneDec 25, 20176 votes

Those are asanine numbers

Really doesn't help the case for the Sona players who want reasonable changes

GinoSoldierDec 25, 20175 votes

Hold on. You do realize that your 'buff' to Sona's W would make her completely and utterly broken yes? It'd heal for close to 250hp at level 1, both targets considered, as well as shielding for near 130.

Staccato restoring Max Mana would be nice, but it can't be 10%. I'd say fixed 4% across all levels would make this near reasonable, and even then.

With these she'd IMMEDIATELY go to a 80% winrate, and more.

Harden StepbackDec 25, 20171 votes

she's at a 51-52% win rate this patch across all elo's what are you talking about

SwiftKitten88Dec 25, 20171 votes

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she's at a 51-52% win rate this patch across all elo's what are you talking about

actaully she isn't.. she is 47-49% (at least from the data i can see)

I'm not saying that is horrific as some people make it out to be, and it may have been an extra % or two nerf more than she needed. but still perfectly viable. its just a pretty big winrate decrease to the people who are used to sitting on 52-55% winrate.

when your winrate goes below 45%... then you can come complain to be how your "gutted" try sitting at 38% for 3 months... and 42% for the next 3...

she hasnt been "gutted" she certainly WAS over-nerfed, if somone is an issue you at 55% dont need to bring them down before 48%. that just excessive. and i i would totally support anyone who wanted to get her winrate back up to 49-51%. as that is what i would do for my main as well. but i still think people are over-reacting

btw what site are you looking at that shows ALL elos at 51-52%? becuase https://www.leagueofgraphs.com/champions/stats/sona/all shows across all elos she isnt quite THAT high anymore..

EDIT: i just realized this was a troll thread.. [zombie-brand-facepalm]

Harden StepbackDec 25, 20171 votes

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actaully she isn't.. she is 47-49% (at least from the data i can see)

I'm not saying that is horrific as some people make it out to be, and it may have been an extra % or two nerf more than she needed. but still perfectly viable. its just a pretty big winrate decrease to the people who are used to sitting on 52-55% winrate.

when your winrate goes below 45%... then you can come complain to be how your "gutted" try sitting at 38% for 3 months... and 42% for the next 3...

she hasnt been "gutted" she certainly WAS over-nerfed, if somone is an issue you at 55% dont need to bring them down before 48%. that just excessive. and i i would totally support anyone who wanted to get her winrate back up to 49-51%. as that is what i would do for my main as well. but i still think people are over-reacting

btw what site are you looking at that shows ALL elos at 51-52%? becuase https://www.leagueofgraphs.com/champions/stats/sona/all shows across all elos she isnt quite THAT high anymore..

EDIT: i just realized this was a troll thread.. [zombie-brand-facepalm]

Hm i guess champion.gg isn't accurate.

SwiftKitten88Dec 25, 20173 votes

[{quoted}](name=Setsuna F,realm=NA,application-id=3ErqAdtq,discussion-id=jNh6ZIlV,comment-id=000200000000,timestamp=2017-12-25T23:40:24.573+0000)

Hm i guess champion.gg isn't accurate.

i have not always found it to be so, no.

for example i can look at some of the data and see its clearly wrong

for example if you look at my own main Nidalee in my elo (or at least the elo riot thinks I'm in) http://champion.gg/champion/Nidalee/Jungle?league=silver

nidalee players with over 150 games on her have a 0% win rate...[slayer-jinx-unamused] i mean i have played nidalee.. so yeah.. i can 100% confirm that's not right

and she may be bad but i really dont think isn't the WORST jungler in the game.as the site makes her out to be

there are some other issues as well, which i tend to see skewing thier data a bit

from what i can see "league of graphs" to be the most accurate, i mean sure there are issues with old graphs when u see champs stat's drop to zero when they didn't have data for that month... but i find their measurements to be most accurate, as well as the most frequently updated

RedCycloneDec 26, 20172 votes

Champ.gg used to be good when it updated frequently

But now it updates literally once a month

RedCycloneDec 26, 20171 votes

You have to also not just look at her numbers, Sona feels completely miserable for 25 mins of game time now and has significantly impacted how useful you can be, I have been called "useless support" by many ADC's this patch and annoyingly they are 100% right

Sona Crushes AllJan 6, 20181 votes

Sona absolutely needs buffs, but your numbers are very humorous.

200 heal on 2 targets + ap scaling and % bonus, + shield.... with a 4.5 sec cooldown.... and i get 10% of my 2600 mana back... (because seraphs is best item) I would be back to diamond in no time. Although sona would be perma banned, for having more sustained healing than raka.