Why can you still stack lifesteal items?

Support Rubmle·May 10, 2016·6 votes·1,438 views

Isn't one lifesteal item and maybe elixir enough? And it's not like Riot want mages to ever have spell vamp.

17 Comments

Chaos689May 10, 20163 votes

For the same reason that I can stack CDR. Because it's a stat in the game that people can buy. What, woudl you rather have a cap of one LS item? What does it matter? No more than 3 (if you have Merc) LS items are really a good idea on one champ in most cases. (For instance, a heavy AD assassin might buy a DD and a Rav Hydra, but not a third item.)

Support RubmleMay 10, 20161 votes

There is a cap on cdr, is there a cap on life steal?

SaltyKrackaMay 10, 20161 votes

Yes. It's called "Hey I built nothing but lifesteal items and now I do shit for damage!"

SylverblitzMay 10, 20163 votes

You can have high damage and lots of lifesteal but if you have no armour penetration or crit items you won't be doing much to a tank while the rest of their team smashes you in the face.

cuddlykitten4May 10, 20162 votes

Why are you fighting the tank if the rest of their team is still alive?

RagarenMay 10, 20162 votes

item 3033 = 45% armor pen, 15% bonus damage based off health. Masteries also give another 6% bonus armor pen. That's only one item out of 6 slots.

cuddlykitten4May 10, 20162 votes

Yea, but.......why is the tank being focused?

RagarenMay 10, 20161 votes

Because tanks are being melted down without much trouble.

Excluding Malphite the anti adc.

SylverblitzMay 10, 20161 votes

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Yea, but.......why is the tank being focused?

They are currently able to deal more damage to the ADC than the ADC can to them. Relatively speaking of course. Right now tanks still deal far too much damage for the amount of health, armour and magic resist they have.

EndlessSorcererMay 10, 20162 votes

If the enemy tank is the only champion you can safely hit (because trying to run through the enemy front-line as a squishy is a horrible idea), then you hit the bloody tank.

In addition, sometimes you have to focus down the enemy tank(s) to reach the rest of their team. Alternatively, your team may excel at kiting/bursting enemies who dive into them while being weak at diving the enemy carries.

Focusing the enemy tank is a situational decision; it isn't always a bad one.

This is especially true if you can disengage the fight after killing the enemy team and wait for cooldowns to come back up since you will then be fighting with a numeric advantage.

SaltyKrackaMay 10, 20161 votes

Because lifesteal scales with damage dealt, and if you're stacking lifesteal you're doing less damage.

Support RubmleMay 10, 20161 votes

So ravenous hydra and deaths dance make you do less damage as riven, neat.

SaltyKrackaMay 10, 20161 votes

Compared to...say, Black Cleaver and Youmuu's? Yes!

RagarenMay 10, 20164 votes

Not really losing much damage when gathering lifesteal items.

item 3139 + item 3072 give 30% lifesteal, 140 damage and some useful effects. add in masteries and you get

32% lifesteal, 8% increase in healing, and if you choose warlords bloodlust which can give up to another 20%. Then factor in the new dragons ocean and infernal and you get boost in both damage and in healing.

SaltyKrackaMay 10, 20162 votes

Try rushing those. Or building both of them when faced with armor stacking tanks. You'll quickly find out just how much damage you're missing.

They have incredibly expensive and awkward build paths too, but that's another matter.

J EpsteinMay 10, 20162 votes

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Not really losing much damage when gathering lifesteal items.

+ give 30% lifesteal, 140 damage and some useful effects. add in masteries and you get

32% lifesteal, 8% increase in healing, and if you choose warlords bloodlust which can give up to another 20%. Then factor in the new dragons ocean and infernal and you get boost in both damage and in healing.

dont bring facts and maths into an arument, AD mains can't handle it.

AlüeMay 10, 20162 votes

that logic is fallacy, spell vamp only works if you have more ap..... op has a point. Mages don't have spell vamp for sustain. they are given pure health which is a shit stat stick, considering the amount of crit and items that work against it.