Riot cant and wont Buff toplane impact intel they fixe range Vs mele issue toplane.

TTg Komodo·Feb 15, 2020·3 votes·1,286 views

Think about from riot point of view, With how stubern they are at not doing anything issue of range auto winning everytrade with mele. If they buff toplane, They are buffing top, top, , , , ... This champion already hard win laning phase in toplane, Any buff to toplane is direct buff to this champions which is just an other reason to push tanks and bruiser away Specialy in Pro play and high elo, Intel mele Vs range get fixe toplanes issue will never be fixed.

13 Comments

vgamedudeFeb 16, 20203 votes

Im at the point where I don't think they'll ever fix the core ingrained range vs melee imbalance in this game.

In dota you have denying, turn rates, stat advantages and more all to allow melee to be viable in every role including primary core position 1. League has NONE of these things. And when you look at bot lane it's clear to see how absolutely weak melee is in this game.

You can watch pro games where a tristana can bully out renekton mid, you can watch faker lose a 1v1 as pre nerf akali to a tristana, you can see lucian picks INTO melee picks (or even ranged) to push EARLY game advantages and also adc scaling btw, you can see varus mid picks bully a zoe etc.

RANGE vs MELEE in this game is fundamentally screwed up. And ANYONE who acts like it's a l2p issue, please just go watch a few pro games where people counterpick melee matchups as range. If you don't get consistent jg attention youre screwed, and even if you do you're going to be down alot of cs ESPECIALLY early.

WarmasFeb 16, 20201 votes

I was just playing HOTS, same melee has stat advantage to assure their power. The bruisers/duelist who are literally built to duel win every duel if played properly, now that is no longer the case with league, bruisers are just big minions for mages/ADCs. They are starting to realise this so they are slightly buffing items in favor of melee but they are going so slow we can wait 5 years to get back to at least s5 and then still a way back to s3.

vgamedudeFeb 16, 20201 votes

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I was just playing HOTS, same melee has stat advantage to assure their power. The bruisers/duelist who are literally built to duel win every duel if played properly, now that is no longer the case with league, bruisers are just big minions for mages/ADCs. They are starting to realise this so they are slightly buffing items in favor of melee but they are going so slow we can wait 5 years to get back to at least s5 and then still a way back to s3.

Id rather see this entire game shook up. The stale 10 year meta of constant duo bot with marksmen being a required part of the game is unbelievably done to death.

MrFawknSunshineFeb 15, 20202 votes

you cant lock a champ into a specific role.

and as someone who plays a melee tank top lane who faces range you can win the lane and win the game.

TTg KomodoFeb 15, 20203 votes

So u as tank player, completly fine with vayne destroying u in lane and then outscaling u ?

MrFawknSunshineFeb 15, 20202 votes

lol vayne is such an easy kill in lane

and vayne is going to out scale me no matter what role she plays that is the champ. not the lane.

but you can beat her in lane.

as a tank player i have more issues vs juggernauts then range

WarmasFeb 16, 20201 votes

I'm gonna be honest with you, you never face a proper Vayne if you are saying this.

MrFawknSunshineFeb 16, 20201 votes

you are right in 7 yrs of playing this game i never faced doublelift

EedatFeb 15, 20202 votes

Most of those champs suck top and the others are mediocre at best. Top is pretty much completely dominated by melee fighters atm with Sona and Soraka being addressed already

TTg KomodoFeb 15, 20205 votes

alright, Sone and soraka being adressed as u said, What stop the next range mage, Adc or supp from goin toplane and winning Just because they are range over mele

EedatFeb 15, 20201 votes

Except you dont auto win range vs melee? Honestly sounds like you just dont want to learn to play which isnt an issue with the game and shouldnt have any impact on balancing it

Knight SoIaire Feb 16, 20202 votes

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alright, Sone and soraka being adressed as u said, What stop the next range mage, Adc or supp from goin toplane and winning Just because they are range over mele

actualy sona and soraka are a funnier story

they were ranged supports... so even if they got ganked and lost lane... they couldnt just come to a teamfight and do everything they were supposed to do... while their meele enemy got kited and didnt do antrhing

this was a clear cut case of abusing both range and supports not beign reliant on gold... which lead to the case where they didnt care about winning the lane because they were guaranteed to be more impactfull than a meele opponent by default

xHeimtechZXFeb 16, 20201 votes

Range is easy to deal with in lower elos because these players don't know how to kite as efficiently and make tons of mistakes (as high elo players say, anything works in low elo because players don't use champions efficiently). Like I demolished a mastery 7 Quinn with a ton of experience as Darius despite barely ever facing Quinn (just walk behind her after you grab so she vaults towards your tower lol). However, watching high rank streams, champions like Lucian can bully you under tower if you're melee with very little mobility options. Its actually disgusting to watch.