I think Kai'Sa needs a small buff to her Q.

Busty Demoness·Mar 9, 2018·5 votes·1,094 views

I think as a concept it's pretty solid, but on delivery it fails in a number of ways.

It feels like it does negligible damage while offering nothing rewarding for hitting all shots on a target. If it was intended as Kai'Sa's farming tool, it utterly fails because of how it deals damage, even with the execute bonus on Minions.

So my proposition is to give her Q the ability to apply and detonate Plasma when hitting enemy champions.

This now gives her incentive to increase her missile count while also giving her solid reward for landing as many as possible on champions. Additionally, since it will only apply Plasma to champions, it does not affect her farming power nor will it accelerate her jungle clear. This also pushes her more into the hunter arch type by giving her a little push towards assassination power.

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TèrminusMar 9, 20182 votes

Assuming this worked like her W does, where the Plasma stacks applied also deal Plasma's damage, an isolated evolved Icathian Rain at max rank, at level 9, would deal...

275 (+100% Bonus AD) (+50% AP) Physical Damage 213 (+165% AP) Magic Damage

Plus two executes in the middle of the barrage that would each deal an extra 17% (+2.5% per 100 AP) of the target's Missing HP.

That's assuming I calculated her passive correctly.

Busty DemonessMar 9, 20181 votes

Correct. But keep in mind that due to how the damage is dispersed (between as many targets as possible), it becomes less viable unless it's you and one other champion in your range.

It's arguably a very small nudge since Kai isn't going to get a bunch of detonations in the middle of a massive team fight with a single cast. She's far too fragile to be in the middle and she still has no raw escape power.

Yara0Mar 9, 20181 votes

I honestly have yet to see one do well even after the buff today she just seems terrible in lane which is incredibly important atm. that 500 range just destroys her ability to do anything she doesnt really get enough damage to be having 500 range because they seem to just get out traded by everything right now I just dont see how you could do well in bot lane with this champion.

Busty DemonessMar 9, 20181 votes

I've had a couple good games with her. It's easier with CC oriented supports but overall I don't think she needs that much.

Half of the reason I suggested this instead of a simple range increase is because it is still an instant cast and her E can provide positioning and W for preliminary stacks towards a detonation. Additionally, due to how the damage is dispersed, a range increase would increase the risk of not landing all of the shots and potentially reduce the reward for otherwise singling someone out.

I think the range would be fine if this change was made, especially since her R can also put her into a position to set everything up.

Yara0Mar 9, 20181 votes

Im talking about her basic attack range :3

they could give her some mechanic that allows her to mark a target the q will prioritise.

You know i wonder if she would do well mid. Eh probably not

Busty DemonessMar 9, 20181 votes

Increased range on her autos? Not sure she needs that either.

PlasmaCommandMar 10, 20181 votes

I mean, she has less range than vayne. That's pretty terrible.

MimrMar 9, 20181 votes

That's a silly mega-buff if it applies plasma on each missile hit. With upgraded Q we're taliking 12 plasma stacks and 2 detonations, that's going to kill most champions outright.

Busty DemonessMar 9, 20181 votes

You do understand a champion would need to be closer to 20% of their total HP and would need to be hit by all 12 missiles for that to be true, right?

Plasma is an execute. It's not going to have a huge effect, even with two detonations, at high HP even with plenty of AP to back it up.

Not only that, due to how dispersion is handled it's going to be pretty difficult to land a single detonation on a single target.

WolfTobbyMar 10, 20181 votes

And something needs to be fixed with her Ult. Her Ult is the most useless ability in the game so far. they need to make her Ult more useful, like when she uses her ult it Gives her more stacks of Plasma per auto attacks and increased cd on E, something like that. I can't stress enough how many people are complaining how useless she already is in team fights because she really has no escapes or CC. And her E and passive is her bread and butter for now, Q is more like clearing waves, but the annoying part is just her passive only detonating after the 5th auto attack unless her W hits, but that's a 20 second cooldown unless you're building AP Attack speed like a Kayle build which by the way is also isn't viable, I doin't think the AP on her passive when it detonates does much damage. I feel she's like a Vayne + Kayle. Like I don't know who the designer is who ever made this champ but they need to change her ASAP. This is probably one of the worst and most useless ADCs atm.

Busty DemonessMar 10, 20181 votes

I don't think her ultimate is the problem, even though I can see why you're saying it's weak. Additionally, by giving her Q this utility it directly improves her ultimate being usable because now you can position with her ultimate to get that double detonation Q.

I also want you to tell me why she NEEDS something that can be made into a pure escape. Currently, her E can be used for that burst of movement that enables her to get the distance she needs.

There's a lot of ways she could be buffed. I think right now a SMALL buff would be better because she's not even a week old and people are still learning to play her.