Can Vayne's third W be %hp physical damage atleast ?

AD champs only·Aug 9, 2017·2 votes·594 views

Please...

Before someone mentions how she isn't picked in LCS.

LCS and SoloQueue aren't the same shit at all. The only thing we in solo queue and LCS players do the same is we play "League of Legends". But their League of Legends is different than ours mortal Solo Queue LoL. Vayne has always been terror in soloq when she was meta. And these buffs will bring her back into the meta with this tank meta shit. The problem is, if she gets even a small lead she will not only chunk the tanks. She will chunk everybody.

18 Comments

ModWulf HelhammerAug 9, 20172 votes

That defeats her entire purpose of being the super tank buster

SuperCosmicHoboAug 9, 20172 votes

Tank buster? Nah, more like kill everything.

ModWulf HelhammerAug 9, 20171 votes

That's exactly what the changes on the PBE are for. No more Q crit so she isn't one shotting squishies, and a bit more power into her tank fighting. Stop exaggerating just to get a reaction

SuperCosmicHoboAug 9, 20171 votes

Only takes 2-3 shots to kill a squishy, and that's not even counting the bonus on W late game

The Leo CatAug 9, 20172 votes

I don't know... if a tank buster is allowed to kill someone and get a huge chunk of their HP back, there needs to be something that keeps her from being the next OP to molest solo-q for absolutely no reason.

That's basically giving a glass canon the tankyness of freaking Graves without all the problems that Graves suffers.

ModWulf HelhammerAug 9, 20171 votes

Low range
Only single target damage
Has to stick to her target for at least 3 hits in order to get most of her damage off
No built in waveclear
Squishy

AD champs onlyAug 9, 20171 votes

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Low range

Only single target damage

Has to stick to her target for at least 3 hits in order to get most of her damage off

No built in waveclear

Squishy

Ok, that's her weak point
Alot of champions have only single target damage. Vayne is one of them.
And who doesnt have to stick to target to deal damage except assassin
That doesnt have to do anything with her 1v1
As squishy as every adc. Wrong argument

So let's see her strenghts

Slippery as hell, literally cannot catch her if you dont CC her
Has spammable dash to dodge CC
Her W has LITERALLY no counterplay
Has Anti-Melee mechanic which is annoying as hell and it also gives her a stack of her passive and stuns (!!!) if she hits a wall
Gets tons of free movement speed
Gets tons of free AD
Pink ward is removed. If you get caught in a 1v1 by Vayne you'll lose unless she's retarded. Idk why an ADC has a stealth in the first place, but ok. Someone more qualified than me did a play-test and released her, cant do nothing there.

ModWulf HelhammerAug 9, 20171 votes

VAYNE IS A DUELIST. DO NOT TRY TO 1v1 HER UNLESS YOU ARE ALSO A DUELIST.

Vayne is the only ADC actually punished for switching targets. No other tradtional ADC has a mechanic that requires them to hit a target 3 times in a row to get their max damage off

If you ignore these two things, nothing anyone says to you will matter at all, and this is just a thread to get rage upvotes since Vayne is the new FoTM for complaining.

AD champs onlyAug 9, 20171 votes

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VAYNE IS A DUELIST. DO NOT TRY TO 1v1 HER UNLESS YOU ARE ALSO A DUELIST.

Vayne is the only ADC actually punished for switching targets. No other tradtional ADC has a mechanic that requires them to hit a target 3 times in a row to get their max damage off

If you ignore these two things, nothing anyone says to you will matter at all, and this is just a thread to get rage upvotes since Vayne is the new FoTM for complaining.

Bruh i main Tryndamere. I know what i'm talking about. I can't even control how my adc does vs vayne on the laning phase. If Vayne gets only 1 kill it's game over for my bot. We will see how will Vayne do in the next patch. But this buff was unnecessary and i think she's abit overbuffed. Before someone says "maining noob champ" and stuff like that. Hmm is it fair to get 3 shotted without you dealing any damage at all because of cancerous kit and sliperrinnes.. Come on.. Gimme a break. I cant die for 5 seconds.. Vayne cannot lose a game if she gets 2 kills on lane... (ok, a bit hyperbolic but u get what i think)

DaNinadAug 9, 20171 votes

Lol if the Vayne get's one kill in laning phase ur bot lane is bad. She has the weakest laning phase in the entire game

Even champs that easily outscale like twitch kogmaw and jinx have a weaker laning phase.

AD champs onlyAug 9, 20171 votes

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Lol if the Vayne get's one kill in laning phase ur bot lane is bad. She has the weakest laning phase in the entire game

Even champs that easily outscale like twitch kogmaw and jinx have a weaker laning phase.

Stop overreacting about her laning phase. It's not non-existent how everyone of you is saying (Even on reddit vaynemains people actually told that her laning phase is not as bad). Most vaynes are onetricks and they will easily win. And i literally cant do nothing to make my botlane play better. TP ? Yes, and vayne gets atleast double kill because gold-low plat elo is uncoordinated as fuck and we all suck. However, because we suck, doesnt mean Vayne won't be too strong.

DaNinadAug 9, 20171 votes

Because soo many people are vayne one tricks right?

The Leo CatAug 9, 20171 votes

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Low range

Only single target damage

Has to stick to her target for at least 3 hits in order to get most of her damage off

No built in waveclear

Squishy

There are a large number of champions who can only do Single target damage effectively. And the wave clear issue isn't exclusive to Vayne and there are ways to fix it. The three hit problem is present in a lot of high damage champions as well, Vayne is just able to do it at a much safer distance, and with a surprising amount of mobility when her ult is off cool down. Sticking to an enemy is not an issue to ADCs. ADCs tend to attack the things nearest to them, or the highest threat. They aren't expected to have the most kills, just push out a lot of sustainable damage. The fact that Vayne only needs to damage someone within three seconds of their death is bullshit.

I don't know though. I'm not saying she didn't need buffs, and I'm not saying she needed buffs. I'm saying that there's probably far better options to give her a buff then to make her even harder to kill than she already can be.

AD champs onlyAug 9, 20171 votes

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That defeats her entire purpose of being the super tank buster

If you by a tank buster mean "every fucking champion in the game". % hp true dmg has no counter. Not against 5k HP target, not against 2K hp target. It's unhealthly

nm1010Aug 9, 20171 votes

Against a squishy she MIGHT get one proc off which is ~275 damage at level 18, not exactly a Miss Fortune q worth of damage.

ModWulf HelhammerAug 9, 20171 votes

That's exactly what the changes on the PBE are for. No more Q crit so she isn't one shotting squishies, and a bit more power into her tank fighting. Stop exaggerating just to get a reaction

%HP does less damage to squishies.