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Let's be HONEST

Yung Seng·Feb 22, 2018·1 votes·582 views

Hi! I wanna talk about people and system in this game. I dont play league anymore and i hope thats for good. I see tons of people getting unfair bans because they are being TOXIC (swearing) to other players who actually SUCK and troll their games but LETS BE HONEST ... Riot dont care about that. System catches mostly the chats but not the gameplay. Yeah i know you cant help your team to win when you swear at someone BUT GUESS WHAT.. YOU CANT DO SHIT TO WIN IF U HAVE 0/5 HEC IN 8 MINS!!! And I want to know why is that. Why people who are trying to win games because they want to rank up getting bans and being stuck because of bad teammates.

LETS SAY YOU WANT TO IMPROVE HOW YOU DO THAT? BY PLAYING RIGHT? 1st game , 2nd game , 3nd game ...... 100th game still gold (for example) So are you that bad or you cant carry 1v5? BECAUSE YOU CANT CARRY YOUR TEAM FOR REAL IN THIS GAME. ITS NOT SOME SHOOTER YEAH?

And people in these forums ... so negative so funny If you say EVEN one bad word they THREW ALL THE RULES at you EVEN you played well and deserved to win ... what happend to your feeding teammate? NOTHING ... STILL PLAYING LEAGUE WHILE U ARE BANNED. SWEEEEET <3

20 Comments

CrettFeb 22, 20182 votes

if you're abrasive to your teammates in chat you get punishments. it's just about being sportsmanlike. bad games happen, man. it's just a force of nature. literally no amount of badgering or yelling at your teammates will change that, even if it was allowed

Yung SengFeb 22, 20181 votes

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if you're abrasive to your teammates in chat you get punishments. it's just about being sportsmanlike. bad games happen, man. it's just a force of nature. literally no amount of badgering or yelling at your teammates will change that, even if it was allowed

Hi! You may be right but sportsmanlike cant get u to higher ranks. So in some way you are right in other wrong. Ty for commenting. i wanna mention that when u play decent already and u are stuck in gold( for example ) you cant get any better. so :))))))

Kai GuyFeb 22, 20182 votes

First year I made gold was largely due to me being less of a toxic shit.

Yung SengFeb 22, 20181 votes

waiting for down votes! please!

Yung SengFeb 22, 20181 votes

argue with me.. prove that im wrong please

Tyra WadmanFeb 22, 20181 votes

I mean, yea, it's quite easy to see you're frustrated and I don't condone lashing out at people, but I can totally sympathize. I always get the typical feedback, 'get gud' or 'you just need to get better' but it's a team game.

AND IF NUNU DECIDES HE WANTS TO ULT THE MINIONS TO FARM, THEN WHAT THE HELL AM I SUPPOSED TO DO TO STOP THAT?! OR IF SION WANTS TO BUILD A LANTERN IN TOP LANE OR IF LULU WANTS TO ULT UNDER TOWER WITH NO AGGRO OR EVEN ENEMY CHAMPS TO FIGHT AGAINST OR IF EZ WANTS TO FIRE HIS ULT OFF THE MAP BECAUSE 'LOL ITS ONLY 30 SEC CD WHO CARES' OR IF SOMEONE GOES 'FIRST TIME JUNGLE' OR 'FIRST TIME JUNGLE ANNIE' I CAN'T CONTROL 4 RANDOM PEOPLE IN RANKED AAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAH!!!

Yung SengFeb 22, 20181 votes

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I mean, yea, it's quite easy to see you're frustrated and I don't condone lashing out at people, but I can totally sympathize. I always get the typical feedback, 'get gud' or 'you just need to get better' but it's a team game.

AND IF NUNU DECIDES HE WANTS TO ULT THE MINIONS TO FARM, THEN WHAT THE HELL AM I SUPPOSED TO DO TO STOP THAT?! OR IF SION WANTS TO BUILD A LANTERN IN TOP LANE OR IF LULU WANTS TO ULT UNDER TOWER WITH NO AGGRO OR EVEN ENEMY CHAMPS TO FIGHT AGAINST OR IF EZ WANTS TO FIRE HIS ULT OFF THE MAP BECAUSE 'LOL ITS ONLY 30 SEC CD WHO CARES' OR IF SOMEONE GOES 'FIRST TIME JUNGLE' OR 'FIRST TIME JUNGLE ANNIE' I CAN'T CONTROL 4 RANDOM PEOPLE IN RANKED AAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAH!!!

Thanks for understanding!

Kai GuyFeb 22, 20181 votes

You don't have nearly enough ranked games to expect to be climbing or falling on this account with out the individual outcome of each match to make a strong effect on your mmr. 11 matches just wont give you enough opportunity's to balance luck. The odds of any of those guys being on your team are lower then the odds of them being on the other side.

If you want to play ranked, Its a ELO system at its core, expect to grind. Its built to be self correcting over time but it very much requires time.

Tyra WadmanFeb 22, 20181 votes

Not sure if you're replying to me (first time really posting anything in the new site today XD) but I'm venting about all of my previous years playing ranked. Not just my placement this year.

Kai GuyFeb 22, 20181 votes

Yea its at you. Season 6 Was pretty low sample size, you have tied it currently with ranked games. You seem to have skipped season 7. But you did make it close to 100 ranked games season 5. More games, more overall impact matters and lemon matches don't. Sall I have to say on that topic, and politely its been 3 years from the last time you seem to have dedicated yourself to climb ladder on this account so your observable personal experience does not seem to be reliable or accurate.

Tyra WadmanFeb 27, 20181 votes

So because I didn't play a lot of ranked means it never happened? I don't understand, these were things that happened to me while I played ranked and I remember making threads about it often in the old forums... So... not sure why the number of games I've played matters. It especially made me bitter when new players end up getting gold with only two wins and I get bronze 5 with 5 wins.

Kai GuyFeb 27, 20181 votes

Not trying to say they did not happen, its just that due to the way MMR and ELO works, is to be self correcting over time. If you don't invest the time, the system does not work. So the number of games Matter a lot if you want to climb off skill, and not rely on luck. I personally focus mostly on my self so the experience others have climbing is less of an issue, my personal skill has no relation to their overall climb.

Its a bit of a coin flip if its a small sample size, grow the # of games and your gonna get a more accurate feel for skill. Watch this if you want more details then I can provide. link to youtube

Kai GuyFeb 22, 20181 votes

"I dont play league anymore and** i hope thats **for good." You are entirely the one who can decide this if you don't want to by all means don't play lol anymore.

0/5 teammate? Cant do anything to win? untrue. You can still make effort to help your team and win. Cussing some one out is less helpful then trying to communicate a win condition to them. A lot of matches, you wont change the flow and win, especialy when your skill is close to what match maker places you at.

Your so bad and stuck at X rank. No players ranks are how good they are, they can do much worse if they wanted to be bad. If they have high amounts of games in a mmr you should be happy as that means they are most likely at that level of skill, the one your currently placed in. This lowers % of them being grossly under skilled for that division, does not mean they will play well.

1v5 is a counterproductive attitude for climbing ladder. Because you will consistently lose a 1v5 in lol. Adapt to being able to make plays around teammates, to make the most impact you can, and find ways to use them to make you do better. In FPS, I played quite a bit of halo. If I had lemon of a teammate I used them. I did not go off ramboing, Id find the unskilled guy, and keep near them. They would take bullets grenades etc, I would clean up. 1 for 1 is an even result. But every time I could 2 for 1 my team is ahead. If I left this guy around to wander off, they'd likely just go 0-1 because I'm not around to clean up. If I'm, around, I can clean up and the fights even easier because I have full clips, enemy might have to reload or be down some grenades, and this guy might put some damage up on their shields.

Anyhow, take your break. Work on your attitude and if you decided to come back learn to communicate win conditions and playpattersn with out tilting folks.

Yung SengFeb 22, 20181 votes

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"I dont play league anymore and** i hope thats **for good." You are entirely the one who can decide this if you don't want to by all means don't play lol anymore.

0/5 teammate? Cant do anything to win? untrue. You can still make effort to help your team and win. Cussing some one out is less helpful then trying to communicate a win condition to them. A lot of matches, you wont change the flow and win, especialy when your skill is close to what match maker places you at.

Your so bad and stuck at X rank. No players ranks are how good they are, they can do much worse if they wanted to be bad. If they have high amounts of games in a mmr you should be happy as that means they are most likely at that level of skill, the one your currently placed in. This lowers % of them being grossly under skilled for that division, does not mean they will play well.

1v5 is a counterproductive attitude for climbing ladder. Because you will consistently lose a 1v5 in lol. Adapt to being able to make plays around teammates, to make the most impact you can, and find ways to use them to make you do better. In FPS, I played quite a bit of halo. If I had lemon of a teammate I used them. I did not go off ramboing, Id find the unskilled guy, and keep near them. They would take bullets grenades etc, I would clean up. 1 for 1 is an even result. But every time I could 2 for 1 my team is ahead. If I left this guy around to wander off, they'd likely just go 0-1 because I'm not around to clean up. If I'm, around, I can clean up and the fights even easier because I have full clips, enemy might have to reload or be down some grenades, and this guy might put some damage up on their shields.

Anyhow, take your break. Work on your attitude and if you decided to come back learn to communicate win conditions and playpattersn with out tilting folks.

Hi! I want to say that I have one acc perma banned because Ive been toxic. Now with this new one Im chill almost 90% of the games. Last game made me write this post because I was on promo for gold 3 and I got matched with plat5 and unranked that played awfully. I want to know why. I need the answer of this question. Why i dont match with people on my level? Im not saying im GOD in this game LOL not even close!!! I just want to play with people on my rank , my skill MY CLONES. I know that i played bad as well but shit is not working when u are alone.

https://imgur.com/a/GYSl2

ty for your comment!

NashweedFeb 22, 20181 votes

That "unranked" player probably has a gold mmr, just doesn't play ranked often enough to finish his placements. Maybe he finished gold+ last season and is only starting his climb now? The fact that the Plat 5 player didn't do well either should show you that just because he's had a bad game doesn't mean he's a bad player. The same can be said about the hec.

Also, consider your own game here.

you're the mid lane and did the least damage in your team (even outdone by the support sona).
you have no control wards placed.
you have the worst kda in your team.
you have 3.8cs/min.
you have the lowest kill participation in your team.
you have the lowest gold income in your team.

So I'd say you'd be better off not blaming teammates but improving yourself instead. You were hardly in any state to carry this game.

Kai GuyFeb 22, 20181 votes

its a duo, vaynes trying to boost him to gold for season rewards I think. dudes been gold 5 0 lp for 2 seasons.

Kai GuyFeb 22, 20181 votes

Its a complicated for why but the easy answer. It makes games off MMR not divisions.

Your pointing out teammates flaws, but objectively speaking. Your damage was very low for a mid. your damage was worst in the game. Your kill participation. Also worst on team. Your lane? 9-2-3. I get that the jungler failing to help you when your losing lane sucks, and hec played that game very badly.

I need to know, What is the metric your using that these players are not your skill? The game does not use Rank to make matches it goes off MMR. Your MMR is (estimate as 3rd party may not accurately reflect riots internal mmr.) 1,576. That games Team average mmr? 1574. Part of this match being janky is because hec and vayne are a duo. Now that he is placed they cant so you see them doing flex 5s.

But whats that got to do with you losing lane to an annie? If its just hec and vayne why are your #s so poor that match?

NashweedFeb 22, 20181 votes

Acting like you've never had a bad game where things just don't go right and you end up feeding. There's a difference between having a bad game and inting/trolling. You don't report people for having bad games. They're in your rank for a reason, so they're just as good if not better than you. That hec didn't 0/5 his way to gold.

Speaking if which, by how your post was structured, I can assume you're pretty vocal in the chat against these players in the chat, which only worsens the situation further. You're doing nothing but tilting them further so they're more likely to play bad not because they're trolling but simply because they're distracted.

I'm sure no one carries every single game they play. Sometimes you carry the team and sometimes you just don't play that well and get carried by your team. Sure there's the occasional game where you're actually playing good but your team is just playing too poorly for you to carry, but if it's occurring more frequently than it should, then maybe it's just you and not the team every time?

Yung SengFeb 22, 20181 votes

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Acting like you've never had a bad game where things just don't go right and you end up feeding. There's a difference between having a bad game and inting/trolling. You don't report people for having bad games. They're in your rank for a reason, so they're just as good if not better than you. That hec didn't 0/5 his way to gold.

Speaking if which, by how your post was structured, I can assume you're pretty vocal in the chat against these players in the chat, which only worsens the situation further. You're doing nothing but tilting them further so they're more likely to play bad not because they're trolling but simply because they're distracted.

I'm sure no one carries every single game they play. Sometimes you carry the team and sometimes you just don't play that well and get carried by your team. Sure there's the occasional game where you're actually playing good but your team is just playing too poorly for you to carry, but if it's occurring more frequently than it should, then maybe it's just you and not the team every time?

I can assure you after my first ban account ive been really chill if someone is talking trash in team. one post cant say much about my attitude. I hate as well people like you to blame me and say that im bad even worse than my teammates because i blame them. like for real? you didnt play single game with me , you dont know me. why you think im bad? wtf? ty for your comment!

NashweedFeb 22, 20181 votes

I never said you were bad. I have no idea what kind of player you are. What I was saying was the teammates you play with are all around your rank/mmr, so you're probably around the same skill level as them. So if you consider them to be "bad players", consider the fact that you are around the same skill level as those "bad players". Otherwise, you wouldn't be matched up with them. So if you're continuously losing, chances are you probably need to improve on your game instead of blaming your teammates everytime.

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