It would be nice to have this since it will allow the support to have more wards
EDIT: Title should be Can Ruby Sightstone get a passive where it allows you to place two pinks?
Deep Terror Nami32 votesRuby Sightstone got several buffs and is now actually pretty good, as long as you went for a tier 3 gold item, want to keep the Sightstone at full build, and have (imo) at least 2 active items to benefit from its CDR.
I suggest instead of buffing it even further (which would likely result in them removing something from it for balance), simply adding an alternate tier 2 Sightstone that does this.
Deep Terror Nami9 votesActually it would still not be a great option, because at full build you would lose the bonus Pink effect as soon as someone kills one you put down (or you never put 2 down). The only option is an item that drops Pinks, whether it be a Trinket or the Sightstone itself.
Virgin Ray3 voteslol it looks like you're talking to yourself
oSEXYPLATYPUSo1 voteslol it looks like you're talking to yourself
are you talking about my post regarding support mages not getting 
?
i dare you to go through any of my games as a support and find where i dont have a
ill wait.....
XLC1 votesYou in chronological view m8? :P
oSEXYPLATYPUSo1 votesYou in chronological view m8? :P
yea
Deep Terror Nami7 votesI was basically amending my position to show that there were some things I hadn't originally considered. I decided to add it on as a reply rather than an edit (for no particular reason, really).
maikokk1 votesi think better would be, an alternative SS upgrade that has the passive and can hold pinks in the same slot like a ward bag
redfeenix2 votesYes I think having a sighstone upgrade which drops pinks would be pretty cool. Then you could build yellow trinket, and use the sighstone as a pseudo sweeper.
Perhaps Emerald Sighstone or Sapphire Sighstone. Great Idea, the current ruby sighstone is REAALY strong it would be really OP if it had both these passive effects.
Gosh Darn1 votesThe problem is, supports are already starving for gold. Most supports just upgrade to the eye items and the few that complete their income item into it's full non-eye upgrade just stop at sightstone.
oSEXYPLATYPUSo3 votes[{quoted}](name=Mr Poopybunghole,realm=NA,application-id=3ErqAdtq,discussion-id=iwaqlhKo,comment-id=00050001,timestamp=2016-08-27T19:56:56.494+0000)
The problem is, supports are already starving for gold. Most supports just upgrade to the eye items and the few that complete their income item into it's full non-eye upgrade just stop at sightstone.
not me sir... i have a 
in 95% of games the only games that i didnt get it is it ended before i got it.
HaloDragonX1 votesTy for having common sense.
ThePartyLeader5 votesRuby sightstone is already pretty good. And Moar pinks doesn't do anything unless you're 60 minutes in and full build as a support.
oSEXYPLATYPUSo2 votesRuby sightstone is already pretty good. And Moar pinks doesn't do anything unless you're 60 minutes in and full build as a support.
ok so what would be the problem with the passive to include pink wards then?
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ok so what would be the problem with the passive to include pink wards then?
Why not just add the ability for Maw or duskblade to be able to place pinks. Vision isn't valuable. Edit Apparently sarcasm isn't spotted easily.
oSEXYPLATYPUSo1 votesWhy not just add the ability for Maw or duskblade to be able to place pinks. Vision isn't valuable.
its not allowing to place pinks it simply gives you a small passive to have 2 pinks placed as a support. the OP isnt saying that places pinks instead of regular wards. just the ability to place 2 pinks which means the support still has to buy them and can only do so if they have an inventory slot.
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its not allowing to place pinks it simply gives you a small passive to have 2 pinks places as a support. the OP isnt saying that
Ok my bad. Still against oppressive vision. That means 6 pinks on the map most of the game. Makes it real easy to snuff out another team if you have true sight on there entire jungle. But just my opinion.
oSEXYPLATYPUSo2 votesOk my bad. Still against oppressive vision. That means 6 pinks on the map most of the game. Makes it real easy to snuff out another team if you have true sight on there entire jungle. But just my opinion.
ok fair enough but both supports on both teams have that option. so its fair. and as far as people cry about stealth champs it could be an indirect nerf to them that might make people cry less... 
Warlord Zudane1 votesIt's actually a great point as an indirect nerf. There is a big problem with stealth being sneaky but overly reliable. This would be able to change the reliablility some because it could be countered easier, if one chooses to go that route.
I think that's the trick to balancing, is that any item, champion or ability should be able to be countered reasonably. A lot of complaints I see on the boards are simply because the way you need to reasonably counter is not something people want to do. There's complaints for all sides and a good portion of them are simply people complaining things aren't easy for what they specifically want.
A balance change like this would allow for stealth champions to be stealthy, but could still be countered by anyone that wants a little extra vision (seriously talking up to 1 extra ward per person). I'd love to see it, upgrading to Ruby sight stone just seems boring and a minor change like that would be nice.
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its not allowing to place pinks it simply gives you a small passive to have 2 pinks placed as a support. the OP isnt saying that
And Rek'Sei/Lee Sin Jungles.
oSEXYPLATYPUSo1 votesAnd Rek'Sei/Lee Sin Jungles.
and would u be mad if your jungler warded? lol
KillerKell1 votes[{quoted}](name=MrFawknSunshine ,realm=NA,application-id=3ErqAdtq,discussion-id=iwaqlhKo,comment-id=000200000000000000010000,timestamp=2016-08-28T23:11:07.544+0000)
and would u be mad if your jungler warded? lol
Not at all, just saying it's not JUST supports that can use this... which is a good thing.
In fact, I could see a few Tank Tops that would bump a Tank Item for a 2nd Pink, since Ruby Sightstone does bring some other positives like CDR (which Tanks like to have so they can keep Stun Locking) and a little HP.
So even on some Tanks, whether Top or Jungle, this Item would become MORE viable, thought not a 'Must Buy'.
oSEXYPLATYPUSo1 votesNot at all, just saying it's not JUST supports that can use this... which is a good thing.
In fact, I could see a few Tank Tops that would bump a Tank Item for a 2nd Pink, since Ruby Sightstone does bring some other positives like CDR (which Tanks like to have so they can keep Stun Locking) and a little HP.
So even on some Tanks, whether Top or Jungle, this Item would become MORE viable, thought not a 'Must Buy'.
right, you make the trade off for the extra stat of placing one more pink ward. not that it gives you wards... but u can have more then 1 so you still have to buy them. the cdr only applies to items that have actives. it reduces the actives by 20% so like
but i got slammed in down votes cuz i said as a 
top if vs alot of magic damage being a tank i will build 
mid game for team fights ( it was a different thread ) but i mean how could you hate for a tanky top laner to be tanker and provide stats for a team ?
Fargo792 votesWhy not just add the ability for Maw or duskblade to be able to place pinks. Vision isn't valuable.
epic bronze player reply.. ya vision doesnt matter in the game.. of course.. lets all face check bushes.. and not ward our buffs or objective... cause u know.. warding mean anything...
Gary B Enkelis1 votesI agree with you but disagree with your tone.
Fargo791 votesI agree with you but disagree with your tone.
u didnt read the sarcastic tone??? or the true bronze player reference?? cause that is the main down fall of bronze tier players all the way up to my current tier of gold.. warding isnt done enough or properly...
Gary B Enkelis1 votesI read both. I could have misunderstood somewhere. My bad. I do agree with you about vision being important.
IcyPepper4 votesI'd rather have it increase the ward cap to four.
Supports don't need encouragement to ward more, the other roles do. If anything, I'd really appreciate it if we could get the pink ward trinket back.
Gary B Enkelis4 votes reduces the cooldown of 
/ 
... It seems really good. It's not placing more wards but it's clearing more wards. Oracle's Elixer used to be a standard Support item and this is the closest we've got to it again. Oracle's Elixer is gone but the concept remains. Vision denial is valuable.
Bladerunner77773 votesThis is a stupid suggestion and would completely remove 
from the game
They just buffed ruby SS bro...
EDIT: RUBY SS DOES NOT NEED A BUFF SHEEPLE
oSEXYPLATYPUSo1 votesThis is a stupid suggestion and would completely remove
They just buffed ruby SS bro...
EDIT: RUBY SS DOES NOT NEED A BUFF SHEEPLE
well if you are worried about those being removed. as a support main i never upgrade to those items, i always get ruby sighstone.
for one i am not a fan of 
so if i play a champ that starts 
ill upgrade to tier 2 but will sale mid game to complete a big item.
people have argued that i lose the gold income, well i am old school who still runs gold per 10 quints so i always have gold income.
to me the best two items are 
and 
alot of the time ill swap 
into and i always finish .
as far as i feel you lose out on having the actives from and they arent worth
also getting has a 20% cdr on active items so i get more use out of the actives from
for one my typical build as a 
support is 
and what ever 
i might need.
as for 
its and from here i build whatever combo of items 
as far as my tanky supports which is 
are the two i play the most ill start in lane phase but as soon as that is over ill go into tank items a like and either 
so typically end up
but would still be viable for mage supports who dont build because they wanna combine 
to have an extra items slot for a damage item so 
could build something like 
and still have gold income , and wards, have magic pen and burst she needs for damage and mr and armor from and the passives they provide with mana, cdr , mana regen and with it gives her a heal that would work when she shields an ally and having will give a nice passive bonus for more damage on her and adc.
I hate my ADC1 votes is situational.
too.
For example, Sona can build for late game scaling with
A Ruby Sightstone would be useless there since she wouldn't have any active beside her trinket to use it on.
Having both the Ruby and the Frostfang, Targon or Medallion also cost you 2 item slots. It cost 550 gold to upgrade from a normal sightstone to an eye sightstone, clearing you a slot to have pinks or another item in it.
There are pros and cons for both. The GP5 item active isn't always ideal either. It all depends on what you are up against and who you have with you.
oSEXYPLATYPUSo1 votes[{quoted}](name=I hate my ADC,realm=NA,application-id=3ErqAdtq,discussion-id=iwaqlhKo,comment-id=000e00000000,timestamp=2016-08-28T14:37:39.758+0000)
For example, Sona can build for late game scaling with
Having both the Ruby and the Frostfang, Targon or Medallion also cost you 2 item slots. It cost 550 gold to upgrade from a normal sightstone to an eye sightstone, clearing you a slot to have pinks or another item in it.
There are pros and cons for both. The GP5 item active isn't always ideal either. It all depends on what you are up against and who you have with you.
that could be one way to build sona if you are worried about her damage. i do plenty of damage with my sona's build and i provide extra auras
i have been a sona main since well s2, since i started playing league. my last game i had a 4-5-26 kda
build was
game before as sona 5-1-15 build ended up 
building into
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that could be one way to build sona if you are worried about her damage.
It's not only for the damage but for the healing. Ardent censer increases your heals and shields by 15%, Athene heals off of your damage and with enough AP you can get the maximum amount of stacks on it with one Q, allowing you to Q - W on rotation. And her scaling on all of her abilities is thru the roof. You will shield more, heal more and give more chasing power (Movespeed) with a Rabaddon than you will with a Mikael, Locket and Frostfang combined because at level 16 you have 67% CDR on your basic abilities with 45% CDR, making your abilities a 2.3, 3.3 and 4 seconds CD respectively.
Obviously, that depends on what you are fighting against and who you are fighting with.
, etc.
Every item is situational, just got to know hat to use.
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i have been a sona main since well s2
Mastery 7, 106k mastery points (my highest mastery champion), 4.4 KDA average (4 / 4 / 13.6) in ranked with 69 games played this season on her. 9.17 KDA average (9 / 4 / 27) in normals... because normals.
oSEXYPLATYPUSo1 votes[{quoted}](name=I hate my ADC,realm=NA,application-id=3ErqAdtq,discussion-id=iwaqlhKo,comment-id=000e0000000000000000,timestamp=2016-08-28T22:18:14.092+0000)
It's not only for the damage but for the healing. Ardent censer increases your heals and shields by 15%, Athene heals off of your damage and with enough AP you can get the maximum amount of stacks on it with one Q, allowing you to Q - W on rotation. And her scaling on all of her abilities is thru the roof. You will shield more, heal more and give more chasing power (Movespeed) with a Rabaddon than you will with a Mikael, Locket and Frostfang combined because at level 16 you have 67% CDR on your basic abilities with 45% CDR, making your abilities a 2.3, 3.3 and 4 seconds CD respectively.
Obviously, that depends on what you are fighting against and who you are fighting with.
Mastery 7, 106k mastery points (my highest mastery champion), 4.4 KDA average (4 / 4 / 13.6) in ranked with 69 games played this season on her. 9.17 KDA average (9 / 4 / 27) in normals... because normals.
i dont discredit what you say, i just differ on it. but that is why we are all aloud to play our champs the way we see fit ...
and i have mastery 7 as well and she is my 2nd highest mastery points behind maokai
imolestplants1 votesThis is a stupid suggestion and would completely remove
They just buffed ruby SS bro...
EDIT: RUBY SS DOES NOT NEED A BUFF SHEEPLE
Make it passive on all then.
Ace Access 3 votescan we instead have the old green and pink trinket upgrade for trinkets backs ?
oSEXYPLATYPUSo2 votesI'll second that idea... what would it hurt? you dont get free pinks but i still love the 20% cdr on items with actives
[slayer-pantheon-thumbs]
Gary B Enkelis1 votesDon't forget trinkets are items with actives, so that's 20% more .
IPromiseTomorrow2 votesI love it. It's genius!
Sir Yucko2 votesIt needs to have a buff that reduces your trinket CD added to it.
Or having Ruby Sightstone allows you to pick up a new Pink Trinket. Which works kind of like the blue one except they are basically Pink Wards. It would definitely make it worth buying as a Support or even Jungler.
Return of the Vision 2016! [slayer-jinx-catface]
DrugsForRobots2 votesYeah, this works, but it doesn't solve the problem that Pinks pose for stealth champions, nor does it actually address the underlying issues of stealth!
Having the ability to drop an instant speed (no cast time, no delay on activation) AoE of True Sight on a stealthed champion is BS. It's unfair to the stealth champ, and it's not really a test of skill on your part.
There is so much Riot could do to make vision in the game fun and exciting. Your proposal is part of the problem, in that it keeps perpetuating the idea that access to more Pinks is what we need. It's not. We need more variety in the way vision, sight, stealth, detection, and vision denial are expressed.
Riot, please.
chubs12242 votesI think it would be better to make an alternate sightstone item such as an emerald sightstone so that way the support can either be placing a trio of stealth wards or a single pink ward on the map at a time it allows a more in depth variety to build paths.
Sylvant2 votesruby sightstone seems like a fine item for tanky supports. Having it holds unique ability to place vision wards would be unfair to all the other supports and force them buy it aswell. If there will be a feature to have replenishable vision wards, it should be universal to all supports, but ofc such feature will also demand a rework of some stealth champs, which a tuned around the idea vision wards are not so widely available
imolestplants2 votesruby sightstone seems like a fine item for tanky supports. Having it holds unique ability to place vision wards would be unfair to all the other supports and force them buy it aswell. If there will be a feature to have replenishable vision wards, it should be universal to all supports, but ofc such feature will also demand a rework of some stealth champs, which a tuned around the idea vision wards are not so widely available
It has the advantage to all supports, nobody is forced to buy it.
Praetor Notorias2 votesI'd rather see a pink ward slot so you can place pinks at full build. Warding has improved a lot this season, but I still see a ton of people with 2 charges on their yellow running around complaining about vision. A dedicated pink slot would help with people buying that. 75 gold really isn't a big investment for a permanent vision station, but you don't see anyone buying a pink except for the people with a desire to climb. Plus at full build you... can't.
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I'd rather see a pink ward slot so you can place pinks at full build. Warding has improved a lot this season, but I still see a ton of people with 2 charges on their yellow running around complaining about vision. A dedicated pink slot would help with people buying that. 75 gold really isn't a big investment for a permanent vision station, but you don't see anyone buying a pink except for the people with a desire to climb. Plus at full build you... can't.
I been saying this for awhile now!~ I think having its own slot would be really lovely because you literally have no space for a pink. If they want it to be balanced they could always just make the slot available only if you meet the requirement of having a support item +/ ruby sightstone and it should still allow you to carry 2 but only 1 pink should be placed at a time like live. I don't think it would be a good idea to allow the slot for everyone as that would be a bit too much vision, a ward slot on support should be good enough.
Drumkicker1 votesYES do this Riot.
VvVVvV1 votesHey if all on team help out, you can have 5 down.
[zombie-brand-mindblown]