Not banning vayne is literally trolling at this point
A bonobo with 3 items can win game with her
I always ban her
A bonobo with 3 items can win game with her
I always ban her
What is a vayne? haven't seen one.
######always ban vayne
My favourite part is how some people still think she is high skill cap champion. Bitch please, she is all right click, the only thing you need to know when playing her is to not tumble into enemy team and not play too agressive till you get your item powerspikes. Infinitely easier when you have free sustain everywhere from runes, and shield slaves like
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Shield slaves
I think you misspelled, "ADC's bitch" right there.
"ADC's bitch" covers the group, "Shield slaves" are a sub-category of the main group to specify.
I thought "ADC's bitch" was every other player on the team?
I'm afraid you are completely wrong at one point.
E requires you to leftclick.
Not with quick-cast*[slayer-jinx-wink]*
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Not with quick-cast*[slayer-jinx-wink]*
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I'm afraid you are completely wrong at one point.
E requires you to leftclick.
Nope. You just press E pointing at the enemy, there's no even need of CLICKING <--bleah
Kinda sucks because you ban Vayne they pick Draven, You ban Draven they pick Vayne,You get both banned they pick Ezreal so now you're in the least interactive game possible because spamming Q over.. and over.. and over... and when one hits he gets a sack of gold or a mana pot to keep doing the same shit.
Draven takes relic shield + has his passive + klepto means 1 kill = 800g lead. rant over but yeah fuck that.
That's not really true though i rarely see draven picked unless its by me in solo q. Normally Ezreal,Vayne,Varus,Xayah, and Tristana are the go to adcs.
Kinda sucks because you ban Vayne they pick Draven, You ban Draven they pick Vayne,You get both banned they pick Ezreal so now you're in the least interactive game possible because spamming Q over.. and over.. and over... and when one hits he gets a sack of gold or a mana pot to keep doing the same shit.
Draven takes relic shield + has his passive + klepto means 1 kill = 800g lead. rant over but yeah fuck that.
Draven sucks after lane phase
So what you're saying is that ADCs have the highest agency over which team gets to have fun.
As much as that I agree with this, this is getting out of hand. Riot needs to fix the ADC role where all ADC's like Xayah and Vayne are actually fair to deal with.
Considering Draven is sitting at a 48% win rate and 2% pick rate, vs. Vaynes 54% win rate and 31% pick rate, youre inventing an issue that doesnt actually exist.
Didn't ban Vayne first promo, enemy picked her, entire enemy team got stomped all game. Ended match with a team KDR of 13/0, personal score (as Janna) of 0/0/10.
Didn't ban Vayne second game, enemy picked her, Vayne proceeded to murder me, my ADC, my team, my dog, and the guy down the street until she could 1v5 our entire team. Me and my ADC were both 1/6 and getting destroyed under turret by the 11 min mark.
I hate how wildly varied skill levels are at low ELO.
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Didn't ban Vayne first promo, enemy picked her, entire enemy team got stomped all game. Ended match with a team KDR of 13/0, personal score (as Janna) of 0/0/10.
Didn't ban Vayne second game, enemy picked her, Vayne proceeded to murder me, my ADC, my team, my dog, and the guy down the street until she could 1v5 our entire team. Me and my ADC were both 1/6 and getting destroyed under turret by the 11 min mark.
I hate how wildly varied skill levels are at low ELO.
The sad part is how your adc that pre select her will rage like a wild animal.
Apparently there arent more adcs
The vaynes I get in my team only tickle the enemy . Enemy vaynes however 3 shot literally everyone. Legit.
Huh. She has a 50.64% winrate in her lowest-winrate matchup. Might explain why I see her banned every single game. I just permaban Zed.
Vayne being strong makes me sad. Means she gets nerfed to oblivion. The only fun ADC, really.
i find really annoying that an high skill cap champion with almost 34%pickrate,54%WR and 47% ban rate gets barely nerfed when if it was another champion it would be literally gutted under the ground
same goes for
,almost 50% pickrate and yet he got barely touched...because they don't want to be too drastic (with their mains) i guess
Implying games get to the point where vayne gets multiple items.
If your vayne cant buy IE x Zeal by 15 mins with catch up gold and steam roll from then their either cant click or trolling
Implying games get to the point where vayne gets multiple items.
not like her items cost 2.5k aka like 100 or maybe less minnions.
If you guys are always busy making up gigantic walls of stuff you can blame your losses on... how do you ever improve?
Because vayne one shotting with static is balanced /s
But she can't one shot with static.
What's your next excuse to being hardstuck silver?
I try to avoid having to be the one to ban her, but if she is open and no one has the as their pick indication then I ban her too. Very annoying to have to deal with.
I try to avoid having to be the one to ban her, but if she is open and no one has the as their pick indication then I ban her too. Very annoying to have to deal with.
I ban her even with team indication unless adc has first pick, otherwise cant risk it.
Sadly i cant ban 2 characters or that cancerous zoe would go next
i try to delay banning her so another person can ban her and i get to ban fiora or caitlyn ( i dont care how they try to make cait seem not op i dont play ranged carries so she is still a btch for me) i dont get to ban fiora or cait much
Fiora has a LOT of annoying potential, but I think she may actually require skill and timing to play lol, so she doesnt get picked as much
I would agree if she didnt get a 60% cd refund on top of the 40% she builds when her q hits anything. Mid game between her autos q e and passive with ult she can easily take 60% of a tanks hp between the Max hp true damage the physical damage and crit the one good thing about adcs being the only viable class to build crit is that fiora doesnt build it.
Valid points, and honestly, in my efforts to pick up a role I can just carry as, instead of supporting and hoping I can boost a carry, I had considered Fiora as a viable choice, since some games she is an unkillable machine.
<edit> Also can she even jungle anymore? her kit is so different now
idk but she like vayne make tanks unviable to pick
some dingus always throws a bitchfit when they have her hovered
They have to be first pick or second pick on red side else ill ask them if they have one of 3 champion i play if they dont i ban.
Vayne ban for 2 years
I always think about banning Vayne but once I ban Yasuo the ban button is blacked out... :(
Screw 5 bans per team...5 bans per player!
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I always think about banning Vayne but once I ban Yasuo the ban button is blacked out... :(
Screw 5 bans per team...5 bans per player!
Yasuo sucks now man
Nah, he is around 50% WR again and even if he was at 40% I could not trust my teammates to know how to play against him.
Or trust my teammates to play AS him... Yasuo opponent is always master tier smurf whereas Yasuo ally is bronze V 0 lp
you want 50 champ bans?
Or you can just trash her in lane and abuse the fact that she lost lane by destroying the rest of her team before she gets her items.
Not being aggressive is just asking to lose.
Check my last game out (ranked solo as vi with a TF, Vayne, Naut, and Ornn)
we got smashed
vayne was toxic and boosted AF even for bronze 4, TF inted, naut flamed like tyler1, and poor ornn was just hanging on while the most brutal trainwreck of a game happened around him
Meh. The last 4 Vaynes i saw all did horribly. 3 of them were on my team they fed bot so hard, the one was 0/8 at 15 minutes and i had only died once. Maybe Its cause im bronze, but i can always kill her against her and she never does well on my team. The latest flashed to dodge my shield as Lux then tumbled under turret on the Illlaoi and ADC after being tentacle grabbed. She then called me brain dead.
Since when not banning Vayne was not considered as trolling ? :"D
I honestly report my adc if he loses his lane against only for not banning her , ffs she needs a rework , her whole kit , completely every single ability she has is broken as hell , no matter how many nerfs she gets , once she buys items she will be good , even
full ad is pretty good
League of Draven? Nope. League of EZ/Vayne/MF
DAE THINK VAYNE IS BUSTED AND THAT'S WHY WE'RE STUCK IN LOW BRONZE? RITO, PLS NERF AND PLS BUFF BRUISERZ
That's literally what this entire board has turned into.
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